213-550-4451
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California (Los Angeles)
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- jeanny| 2 repliesI got a call from this number, some guy with indian accent said i owed them money he was really aggresive and said if i didn't pay that they would have me arrested...any ideas
- Caller: Quick payday
- Call type: Prank
- EM| 1 replyThere are other numbers but the messages are still the same. The law firm that they use is actually real, Williams and Scott, and is based in GA; but, you can't find them in LA as they say they are located (the numbers point to LA also. The greatest lesson to learn perhaps is always have documentation and be able to locate it. I was scared like all get out at first because the guy had ALL of my personal info and contacted a personal reference as some of you have said. Even a bit unnerved, my first goal was to not confirm that any information he had was correct or not (except the obvious fact he had phone numbers correct and such). I told him that I would have to call back after doing some research on my own. After getting home and seeing when I made the one, and only one-time transaction, I called his bluff (he didn't even have the right year!). My research also found that I indeed had everything paid in full as I had thought and told the guy - then I got a little more forceful and upset --> never heard back from the guy (May 2010). Then, I was prepared to have some fun and put his money (that he was trying to steal from me) where his mouth was. Devine Wisdom is PRICELESS. Always do your homework. Before getting home I got on the web and poked around quite a bit and felt more at ease as things didn't quite check out. I'm also glad I ran across this site as well; the *extra* information was very useful! I hope others will be as cautious, careful but as proactive/wise as I was able to be. I think most of us have been hit with some type of scam or marketing scheme at one point or another; I was determined to not let it happen another time this go 'round. Good luck to the rest of you. I'm not sure how my information got out there, and that's what's bothersome, but I will no longer use the same online method again should I ever need to make a similar transaction.Caller: Williams and Scott Law Firm (LA)
Call Type: Debt Collector- Caller: Williams and Scott Law Firm (LA), Fake
- Call type: Debt collector
- hollis replies to EMI just had the same thing happen to me. He had all of my personal info but could not tell me the contact info for the supposed debt nor could he give me the specific date of the debt. I am worried because he has all of my personal info. He had my SS#. I dont know if I should do anything or what I can do!
- ChuckI appreciate all of you having posted your information. This caller's phone number was just given to me by another victim who was requesting criminal investigation. Your messages as well as whocallsme.com allowed a pretty quick rule out of this being a legitimate call. In the case I'm working I will be sending the victim Identity Theft information and am recommending the same for all of you. The amount of information the caller knew concerning my victim was alarming. The threat of arrest, although fraudulent in this case, is very real from a different perspective. The suspect mounts finances and tickets in your name, then walks away. Warrants and collection occur in your name. And sadly it does become possible for you to be arrested and jailed over something you did not do. It seriously does become an issue of you having to prove your innocence. Under our state law (Oregon) what has happened with this call is probably a crime. And although I will initiate a criminal investigation, the probability of bringing the suspect to trial is right at zero.
For all of you, if the suspect had significant information of you, and the information was nothing you provided, see if your state will allow an identity theft report. If your state does allow the report, even if investigation or prosecution won't follow, report it to police. Get a case number. Then see if you can get a free credit report. See if you have action on your credit report that was not generated by you.
You can download some of the forms or ideas from our website that might be of assistance. www.lakecountysheriff.us. Then click on identity theft. We don't have a lot of information, but we are doing all we can to help our citizens recover when they're a victim. Here's hoping it can help you too.- Caller: Williams and Scott
- Sandy| 2 repliesI received a voicemail from 213-550-4451 from a caller with a very thick Indian accent. He had a very threatening tone and mentioned "criminal charges" several times because someone had used me as a reference. He stated that I was liable for this person's debt because I was used as a reference. I know this isn't true, and I will not call them back, but it bothers me that they have my name and phone number and who knows what other information about me.
- Call type: Debt collector
- orchidi never ever borrowed from this company...EVER. I truly believe they fish through online applications of other companies i have inquired about in my "desperate" times.
the 1st thing i'd asked was for names phone numbers and addresses. the 1st non-speaking english person who sounded of an indian descent couldnt even pronounce my american name. he had me on hold for 3 mins as i'd patiently awaited another indian speaking man named Mr. Dejesus... how ironic? but i asked for the info... he repeated my SS# which sounded correct but i never confirmed. i'd asked what company was the law office representing, and he stated quick pay day loan. as i've stated...never heard of these people. when i asked what was the date the funds were loaned, he immediately started yelling. i then hung up. i can be professional, but if you are willing to work with me, be courteous and professional, no matter if a customer is yelling and or cursing, which i was neither.
i have learned being in dire straits, that as a consumer, you still have rights. do your homework. if a company is going to bring you through and to litigation and they have all of the information...where is the legal documents that should be sent in the mail? i figure if i am on the east coast, and this company is on the west coast, as theyve claimed... (eventhough the law ofc is out of Georgia) i would like to stand by and see this trick. so go on mr Dejesus... sue me...i have every statement for my acocunts... you have to prove how much and when you've loaned me this imaginary money...all i can do is laugh and hang up...come to your senses people and realize this is one big joke. they gave me a fake address also... 17100 gillette ave of los angeles ca 92614 for a quick pay day loan represented by william scott and associates. if they keep calling me, i will send a few notices to the consumer affairs and contact bbb.- Caller: william scott associates for quick pay day
- SunnyThis is a SCAM! Do not pay these people any money. See below:
http://abcnews.go.com/ http://abcnews.go.com/
Fake Debt Collectors Terrify Consumers
Alleged Debt Scam Calls Threaten Consumers: 'Only God Can Help You Now'
By ALICE GOMSTYN
ABC NEWS Business Unit
Aug. 21, 2008 —
Scammers masquerading as debt collectors and law enforcement officials have terrified consumers with threatening phone calls and bilked them out of thousands of dollars, officials with the West Virginia Attorney General's Office say.
Prosecutors said that the scammers, who speak with heavy foreign accents, are known for repeatedly calling people at home and at work and threatening them with arrest if they don't repay supposed debts -- debts that, according to West Virginia officials, don't actually exist.
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The scammers operate under names such as U.S. National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau and United Legal Processing, said West Virginia Assistant Attorney General Norman Googel.
The callers also have invoked the names of actors Denzel Washington and Steve Martin, people who've received calls tell ABCNews.com.
Googel said that the scammers have been impossible to track down, but ABCNews.com spoke to one man who claimed to be associated with U.S. National Bank. The man said he works for Financial Crime Division, a company he said provides services for USNB.
The man refused to give his name and gave little information about his company.
"It's not necessary that each and everyone knows about Financial Crime Division, and probably one of them is you," he said. (To hear an excerpt of this interview, click here. Links to more interview excerpts are included on the second and third pages of this story.)
The man also denied that consumers had been threatened with arrests.
But Mark Feury, a 35-year-old assistant manager at a hotel cafe, said it was the threat of an arrest that drove him to wire nearly $800 to U.S. National Bank in January. The Lewisberg, W.Va., resident said that he took out several payday loans -- short-term loans -- in 2005 to help pay for Christmas presents and medical treatments for his son, who suffers from autism.
Feury said he paid his loans back in 2007, but the scammers' phone calls -- at least 35 in all, he said -- and their threats made him doubt himself.
"I was scared to death," he said. "Everything they said literally just stressed me out to the max."
The group has targeted consumers who took out payday loans through Web sites years ago, Googel said.
The group has secured consumers' Social Security numbers and other personal information, which may have been stolen from Internet payday lending sites, Googel said.
What has made the group especially intimidating, Googel said, is its use of phrases that sound like legal terms -- such as "downloading affidavits" -- but, in reality, are meaningless.
The alleged scammers have also invoked God, Googel said, telling victims that "only God can help you now."
Some of the scammers' tactics are downright puzzling.
One West Virginia woman, who asked that her name not be revealed, told ABCNews.com that a scammer once called her and identified himself as "Denzel Washington."
Feury said that one of the scammers who called him said he was calling from "Steve Martin's office."
Collection and Money Fraud
Googel said that the scammers' use of celebrity names may indicate a lack of familiarity with American names. Some, he said, suspect that the scammers are based in India.
Since July 2007, Googel said, the West Virginia Attorney General's Office has heard from nearly 20 consumers who have complained about the scam.
West Virginia residents aren't the only ones complaining. The Florida Attorney General's Office said it has heard more than three dozen complaints related to U.S. National Bank.
Thus far, Googel said, the scammers have been impossible to trace, using a multitude of phone numbers and fake addresses.
"The way they've hidden themselves is pretty slick," he said.
ABCNews.com called a phone number associated with U.S. National Bank -- Feury listed the number in a complaint against the company -- and was transferred to the man who claimed to work for Financial Crime Division.
The man, who spoke to an ABC News reporter for about five minutes, said that U.S. National Bank owns Internet payday lending Web sites and that Financial Crime Division is a "legal affidavit processor" -- a term that Googel also has dismissed as meaningless -- that works to notify borrowers that they still owe money to USNB. (The man refused to provide ABC News with contact information for U.S. National Bank.)
"They have taken so many loans they have forgotten that one to pay back and we are calling them about this legal matter," the man on the phone said. "That's not our problem that they have forgotten."
The man argued against the complaint that his company had called people about nonexistent or repaid debts. Consumers, he said, have failed to provide the company with proof that their debts have been repaid.
"When we are asking the information, they are not ready to give to us," he said. "If they have paid it, they must have something in writing, some kind of receipt, but they are not going to give it to us, so how can we trust them?"
Loan Scams and Fake Address
When asked where Financial Crime Division was based, the man hung up.
Googel said that he has been on the phone with the suspected scammers many times and that each time they refuse to provide identifying information such as valid addresses or a licensing number, which collections agencies operating in West Virginia are required to have.
"I yell and scream at them, but it doesn't do any good. It's sort of high drama in a way," he said.
Googel said that he has notified the Federal Trade Commission about the scam, but the FTC would not confirm whether it had launched an investigation. An FTC official told ABCNews.com that it does not disclose whether it is investigating a company unless it takes the company to court.
The official said that consumers with complaints about U.S. National Bank are encouraged to contact the FTC, the Better Business Bureau or their state attorney general's office. Read a statement by the West Virginia Attorney General's Office's office on the issue here.
ABC News' Gerard Middleton contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures- Caller: Indian Collection Scam
- SunnyStarted receiving calls from this number. The person on the other line claimed to Kevin Williams from a law firm. This person had a thick Indian accent. Everytime I was contacted by this number the person's name was Kevin. At first I would laugh and hang up until the calls were more frequent. The next time that they called I told "Kevin" that I was reporting him to the Attorney General's office. "Kevin" asked me if I would like to speak to the cheif attorney. I laughed again and told him to stay in India and to stop trying to steal money from people. I told him not to call again. He informed me that he would call as many times as he wanted. I informed him he would have to talk to American law enforcement and hung up. The number called me back only this time I was given a real name and the man began speaking to me vulgarly saying things that he was going to do to me. I hung up and told my husband. He called back and began talking to my husband vulgarly, however, my husband had other choice things to say to him. I reported the calls to my cell phone provider.
- Caller: Attorney
- Call type: Debt collector
- TonyaI get calls from this number daily, today they requested my attorney call but did not give me any information as to who they are and who I am supposte to owe.
- Brandy| 1 replyThis is ridiculous how many people have gone through the same thing that happened to me yesterday. I got a phone call from this guy claiming his name was James Johnson. He stated that I owed a company quickcredit.com money and the case was being downloaded to court the next day. What a crock. He said I would be responsible for $5484.37 in court costs after this went to court and they won. The only thing he could do was have me settle the debt for $633.00 and it had to be paid on my next payday. Otherwise the file would be sent to court. To make a very long story short, at the end of the phone call, with me being very upset, he stated that it was a scam, laughed and hung up. I had my boss call the number back and ask for the name of the company, however, they refused to give it. Apparently gave her the run around, and then hung up the phone. Please, please, please do not give these people any money. I reported it to the States attorney general, and they are keeping the case on file in case anyone else has complaints.
- Caller: William & Scott Associates
- Call type: Prank
- Kim replies to BrandyThese people are ridiculous they pray on people who are tough situations They ahve called me 5 times in the last 20 minutes. This is unreal. I hav ereported them to the BBB and intedn to report them to the Maryland AG.
- 2135504451These people call me all the time I did get a payday loan but paid it off!!!!! and will not do it again, I mess with them because I know it is a scam, they call me at work 3 or 4 times a day! thank god I work with a person who understands! do not give them any info! its just terrible that they get away with it!
- Caller: a law firm
- Call type: Debt collector
- HolliThese jerks called me a couple of days ago and I am still shook up over how much info they had on me! Thanks to this website, I figured out it was a scam but they had me fooled into thinking someone had stolen my identity. I am just curious if anyone has had their accts. or credit compromised due to these scammers. They knew MY ENTIRE SS#! I know they are trying to get money from people but if they were able to obtain such personal info on me, can they steal my identity and screw with my credit? I can't believe this continues to happen to so many people and nothing has been done about it. It is really scary!
- Caller: Williams & Scott
- Call type: Debt collector
- They called me about a year ago telling me I owed them $800.00 I told him he was crazy I did not owe him anything. He then got very aggressive with me, and I back to him. I was picking my sister up at a Tanger Outlet in GA she lives NC to bring her home because our Father was dying and this idiot would not leave me alone. I told him to leave me alone and I told him my father was dying, he did not care and told me he was sending the police to my house to get me. I told him to send them on and hung up. I bet he called me about 4 or 5 times finally my Sister answered the phone and gave them a few choice words and hung up and never heard back from them till today. He the Indian guy, left me a message telling me or my attorney to call him and if I did not call him back ASAP that all he good say to me was good luck to my legal matter. So when I got home from work I let my husband listen to the message he called them back and well I'm not going to say what the told them and hung up so we will see what happens next but I think I may call the police and get a report on it. DO NOT SEND MONEY IT IS SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Caller: Indian guy
- Call type: Debt collector
- MegsThese people called me about a year ago and told me the same type of stuff, that I owed money to Cashnet for a payday loan and if I didn't pay I would be arrested immediately. He said I was due in court the next day and I had better show up with a good lawyer. He said that I had a warrant in my state and everything. I called a company I was working with to consolidate some of the loans I had taken out, and they said that this guy was trying to scare me and to keep documentation of the calls. I went to the state police department and had them run my info to see if I had any warrants or actions against me, and they said no and that this was probably a scam. I did borrow money from several payday lenders, but I don't think cashnet is even a lender. i think they are the people who fine the lenders if i am not mistaken...anyway the guy didn't call me back again until last week. He left the same message on my voicemail, and a woman also called from the same number saying the same thing. Then they called my best friend and said that she was going to jail for being used as a reference. She did some investigating and found out that she could not be in trouble for being a reference (obviously). This is really a nuisance, and it scared the hell out of me at first. I mean really scared me. It made me sick to my stomach, and I think I smoked a pack of cigarettes before the day was over. I am going to do some more digging around, and probably get my number changed too.
- Caller: mysterious law firm for cashnet
- Call type: Debt collector
- brittanyi recieved a phone call last year to pay money i dont have a job and they wanted me to pay 300$ every other week til it was paid..i called the place where i had gotten the loan and it was paid off i have the paper work..as well they told me if i dont call back best of luck to you and she also had me write down like an agreement go have it notorized then send it to her...luckly i didnt cause thats when i figured out i had everything paid. anyways i just got another call saying the same thing indian voice very persistant and have my attorney call and best of luck to you. so i call the number and i cant get through to them. the caller cant not receive anymore messages at this time and than it says a error has occured then it hangs up on me...what the heck????
- kristen| 1 replyI received a call from this number on my WORK phone. The woman I spoke with, "Stella Woods" (had some sort of accent, Indian, maybe?) had a lot of my information... (ssn, parents names, address, etc). She told me that she was a representative from a law firm representing Advanced America Cash Advance (AACA), a loan company funded by the Federal Government, and that they were suing me for $1,125.67 from a payday loan. I was caught off guard- I have never even once applied for a "pay day" loan-- the only loans I have in my name are student. When I asked about the payday loan, she said it was for $300.00 from September 2008 (but could not give me an exact date) and that due to interest and legal fees they would be suing for the aforementioned amount. I questioned why this was the first time I had heard anything about this, she claimed that I signed an electronic contract that stated I would only receive correspondence via email and that they attempted e-mailing me 24 times. I asked to speak to a supervisor, and when she said she was the supervisor, I asked to speak to a manager or someone above her. I was "transferred" to a "Mark Redd" who repeated the same information, but was much shadier. I asked him what bank account info they had on file, and he was able to give me the correct routing number, but the account number he gave me was 6 digits and not mine. I also asked for him to fax me a copy of the supposed contract that I signed, but he told me my attorney would need to call for that information. Both "Stella" and "Mark" threatened that I would be brought to court, facing criminal charges and that my employer would be notified of what I had done. After I left work today, I went straight to the police department and told them the story. The officer called this number and told him he was from the local police department and the guy on the other end said "Ooo I'm so scared!" He told me it was definitely a scam and told me not to worry about it.
- jthese people are a scam..do not talk to them or give any of your personal information to these people..all they are is foreign people who are hired by someone who knows how to hack into payday loan companies and steal information and then pretend to be collectors to get any kind of money they can get..just ignore them and they will eventually quit calling..
- Caller: ??
- NeighborJust reported them to the Federal Trade commission - everyone should do that also. Their conact number is 877-382-4357
- Caller: Law Firm
- deeI've received 2 calls from this same person, once this morning which i just got off from than 2 days ago. The first time the number did not appear the same in my caller id but was 052-525-513 but left a message to call back at this 213 number on a very time sensitive matter. When i returned the call yesterday i got a message that the callers mail box was full and could not receive any more messages which set off some alarms for me. I have already had experience with this find off fraud last year were i had to put flags on my accounts and called everyone I could think of for help. He has even tried to contact me at work on both occasions. When I called back this number this morning and asked what buisness he was with he just told me worked for the cyber crimes division for a law firm (which I could not make out) based in Los Angelos I told him that I would not give him any information until I verified the number and buisness so we said our good byes. I found it curoius that when he received my call he kept asking what number I was calling from and not my name or reason for calling at any point. Doesn't everybody have caller id now? I do not wish do go through this kind of harrassment again and hope someone can respond and tell me there something we can do. Last year it got so bad they harrassed me almost everyday at work as well and even went so far as to curse out one of my co-workers that had the unfortunate luck to answer the phone first than did the same with my boss when they refused to put me on the line.
- Caller: william and scott
- Call type: Debt collector
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