863-438-1785
Country: USA
863 area code:
Florida (Lakeland)
Report a phone call from 863-438-1785 and help to identify who and why is calling from this number.
- Stephanie| 1 replyThey keep calling me too. They say that there is some serious legal allegations against my name and social. There are 2 different men calling, saying that they are Office Kevin Jones.
- Caller: Unknown
- Mr. S. replies to StephanieI got that same call. This caller Is trying to scare people into giving their personal infomation out so they can scam the unexpecting person. Do not respond to the caller just hang up
- kikat| 2 repliesThey are persistant calls. So far I've had three.Two men 1 woman.She is the worst.Shes called me 4 times in 1 day.If you get a call fron Haines City Florida don't answer.They won't leave you alone.
- Caller: Law and Investigation
- gixxerboy replies to kikat| 1 replyreceived a call today from this number. He said he was an attorney out of tampa fl named Neil Johnson. I searched the florida bar while on the phone and there is no Neil Johnson. I said that to him and he just brushed it off. I asked him what law school he went to multiple times and he hung up on me
- kikat replies to gixxerboyThanks for the reply. She just started today calling at 1:30. I knew she would be a problem. The good thing is she not leaving messages and I can hear someone whispering at the other end. Unfortunately I can't make out what shes or he is saying.
- FEDUPI got a call last night. He said that he was from the Department of Investigation. He said his name was Officer John Voit. They are scam artists and they keep calling even at your job they call to try and scare you. Say you are going to the police and hang up. Don't give them any of your information. They are persistent and keep call though. Just hang up each time.
- Caller: DEPARTMENT OF INVESTIGATION
- FerrellI got the same calls even to my grandmother 90 years old scaring her. I think they get our info from Craigslist or other job listing site. Be careful with that.
- Caller: Paul Green
- angellajust got one today..very strong accent with american names...they call so early...
- Vicki- WisconsinGreat info on these SCAMMERS
This is just another one of hundreds (and perhaps even thousands) of numbers these overseas payday loan debt collection scammers are calling from:
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-9141: PLUS MANY OTHER LIKE NUMBERS
It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal. The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal consumers' money.
Here are a few news reports and government advisories warning consumers about this scam:
ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1
West Virginia Attorney General: http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm
WTAE TV4, Pittsburgh: http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/call4action/17285785/detail.html
Florida Commissioner of Consumer Services: http://www.800helpfla.com/newsletter/2008/092008.html
This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and probably other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American pay day loan scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."
Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Christian Nicholas & Associates, US Federal Bank, Sonic Bank, Hopkins Law Office, CashNet, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more. These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.
The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection. (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)
A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank. Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.
This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (
http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.
Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:
IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com
A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:
Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant: Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email: ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )
Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.
This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.
If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):
1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.
2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.
3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone. Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.
4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org
5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en
If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)
By the way, here's just a *small* sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-336-553-3965
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-909-6789
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-310-909-8245
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444
...and, many, MANY MORE.- Caller: SCAM-Loan Collectors
- Call type: Prank
- nikon22042Well this number called me, its the same company and they just use different numbers. Well Victor Whoever called me wanting my attorneys phone number. Knowing that this is a scam I gave him his name M I K E C O C K (had to spell it out to him) and I gave his number as the number to the FBI cybercrime department. He told me his office was in Florida so I asked him if it was near disney world. Long story short they wont be calling me anymore. Poor guy just gave up and said you wont be called anymore. Problem solved for about 2 weeks then they will call again. If you get called they are total SCAMMERS!!!
- Call type: Prank
- M MillerI am getting call that there are serious legal allegations against my name and social. There are 2 different men calling,
- M MillerSerious legal allegations against my name and social. There are 2 different men calling
- Call type: Debt collector
- llona m bryanti have been harrase for over the last six months with this same number.
- Caller: unknown
- llona bryanti do remember they name richard jackson and scott jackson
- Caller: fraud investigate
- Call type: Debt collector
- Steven OmegaYeah these Calls trying to SCAM me for something I know better is both a JOKE and a PAIN. I just wanna know how do we take them out. I would think SCUM like this are TERRIOST FUND RAISERS and should be dealt with accordingly.
- Call type: Debt collector
- jlewinthreaten them with federal trade commision, attorney general and consumer affarirs. if you dont, they will get you fired from your job. they hang up on you and are rude. dont give them any info, but they will call anyone. old jobs, friends, scarey. but dont let them scare you!
- Caller: dept. of law and investigations
- rds dentalI got that same call. This caller Is trying to scare people into giving their personal infomation out so they can scam the unexpecting person. Do not respond to the caller just hang up
- DISPATCHThis number keeps calling our 911 dispatch center for one of our employees. They refuse to stop calling even though we advised that this is an emergency call center. This company stated they were from Cash Loan, this is a legal issue, and they were investigators/officers.
- Caller: CASH LOAN INVESTIGATION DEPT
- Call type: Debt collector
- amberits a scam i told them i was gona get the police and he hung up lol what a a**hole
- Caller: he dnt say
- janisGot a call from this number thanks for all the post and will not give out info, but would like to know how to stop them
- Caller: Department of Law and Investigation
- Call type: Debt collector
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