888-983-5404

Who is the owner?

The numbers were (888)983-5404 and (877)212-9618. They say they are GSA Management.  Yesterday I was called by another number and told to call the 5404 number to reschedule the serving of "legal summons" so I called.  The lady I spoke to yesterday refused to give me any information until I confirmed the last four digits of my social.  I was uncomfortable with this, but also scared out of my mind at the prospect of a "legal summons", so I gave it to her.  She said I was not the person they were looking for and promptly hung up.  
Today I got a message telling me it was urgent that I call back so I did.  The gentleman that I spoke to today hung up on me twice when I requested information and refused to let him talk over me.  Finally he said he would give me the first five digits and I could tell him if it matched me.  It didn't.  I requested that he remove my number from the call list which he said he did.  I also expressed my disapproval with the way the company is cold calling people hoping to get the right person and scaring people into calling back.  He hung up.
From what I gather, this is a debt collection place trying to find the right people so they cold call people with the same name.

I kept repeatedly getting phone calls from 302-394-9172. I have the "Call Control" call blocking app on my android phone, and blacklisted the number and filed a report. They have called and woke me up, and at other inconvenient times when I couldn't answer. They never leave a message. Anyone who knows me knows that if I don't answer to leave a message....personal and business contacts alike. So I knew that whoever it was didn't know me, and I didn't know them. Finally, today, they called again...and I was fed up. I answered the call to find out who it was, and to tell them to stop calling my number. They would not say who they are. They would only say that they were calling to refer me to a company/agency that would be serving me with civil court documents. When I asked who it was, they wouldn't tell me...they said it was illegal for them to tell me...? Yeah, right. So I said, I don't have any issues with anyone, so I'm going to call them to find out what is going on. They give me the number 888-983-5404, and supposedly a case reference number to give them, and said they would fully disclose what the issue was when I called that number. I took all the information down, and then told the guy that called me that they had better not be referring me to a collector, because I don't owe anyone. And also added that there are 4 other women in my state that have the exact same name as me (there are, and I have received bills that belonged to some of them in the mail, and had to correct the company that sent them.). I told him that I was most likely being confused for one of the others. And lastly, I told him that, since he has passed along the information to me, to make a note for his office not to call my phone number any more. He tried to tell me that he couldn't do that with some lame explanation, and finally I said "DON'T CALL MY NUMBER ANY MORE!" and hung up. Then I proceeded to go onto GOOGLE, searched the number he gave me to call, and that search sent me here in the top of the search listings. As it turns out, I'm one of many that these scammers have contacted. I did send a lengthy report to the "Call Control" app web site about this being a fraud, and to not respond to the call. -- NOTE: Phone harassment is ILLEGAL in most, if not all, states in the USA. If you tell someone to not call your number anymore, it is illegal for them to do it. Bill collectors that are legitimate must produce proof of the debt and send it to you via US Mail. You have a right to know WHO (specific company) is claiming that you them money. If they cannot produce documentation to send to you, they are not legitimate and are running a scam to get your personal information...verify your name, bank information, and home address. It the debt is legitimate, the company that hired them will have already provided them with that information...they do NOT need it from you. DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY SENSITIVE OR PERSONAL INFORMATION. They will use that to steal money from you.

I got the same call as the person above.  1st it was from 302-394-9172, I was told to call 888-983-5404, I did and told her I filed for Bankruptcy and told this was a criminal case and that the BK didn't take care of it and because I paid the BK lawyer, that's why they didn't tell me.  I told her to stop calling and hung up.  Today I got a call from 786-358-5269, with the same info,  to call the 888 number and they didn't have any info and I told them to stop calling.  They also said they tried to deliver some documents to me today,  but I wasn't home.  Yeah right,  I'm here all day.  It's all scare tactics, but I am getting tired of the freakin' calls.  I added both numbers to the "do not call list" today.

just in case they start using this number again:

There are complaints about them all over the internet for harassing people that do not owe the debt, threatening to arrest people for a debt, telling people the only way they'll stop calling is to pay "court costs" on an alleged suit they filed, etc.  According to some of the MANY complaint pages and numbers they've called using, it seems they call about debts that are 5-10 years old, don't care if they were paid or not because they want money.  There are people who have fallen for this, and stated that they paid, and are STILL waiting on getting the documentation of the debt from them.  Of course, their story is that they sent it out ... yeah, right.
What's laughable is one page on their website that says they follow the law during collection attempts.  OBVIOUSLY, NOT!  THEY have an F rating with the FL BBB (see below).

By the way, it would seem to me that, IF you had a bad debt, it would show on your credit report (if still eligible to be reported).  IF you do have a bad debt on your credit report, you might want to consult an attorney and/or the original creditor, rather than these folks who obviously could care less about the law.  [I am NOT an attorney, nor do I profess to be one.  I am NOT dispensing “legal advice,” simply giving my opinion!]

IF they were calling about a legitimate debt, they would NOT be calling to see if you'll be home all day on certain day to "deliver legal documents" or "subpeona."  A legit collector CANNOT discuss your bill with anyone else OR threaten to arrest you and/or send you to debtor's prison, etc.

Make yourself aware of the rules in the FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT.--http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fdcpa/fdcpact.shtm  
Here is more info on it from the FTC Consumer information -- http://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0149-debt-collection
It's glaringly apparent that these folks enjoy breaking most of these rules.

Hope this helps someone!


As well as filing a complaint with your State Attorney General and the FTC, you can also file complaints in Florida.
Here is the Florida Office of Financial Regulation's complaint info page:
http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/FileAComplaint.htm

(Florida) Bureau of Financial Investigations
http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/BureauOfFinancialInvestigations.htm

(Florida Bureau of Financial Investigations)  Online Fraud & Abuse Tip Referral Form
http://www.flofr.com/StaticPages/documents/OnlineFraudTipForm2.pdf

Here are some other agency contacts:
NATIONAL WHITE COLLAR CRIME CENTER (NW3C)  http://www.nw3c.org/Home
Phone:    (804) 273-NW3C
 Email:    ISS@nw3c.org


FBI “Contact us” page -- http://www.fbi.gov/contact-us
FBI Tips and Public Leads submission form  https://tips.fbi.gov/
“Please use this website to report suspected terrorism or criminal activity. Your information will be reviewed promptly by an FBI special agent or a professional staff member. Due to the high volume of information that we receive, we are unable to reply to every submission; however, we appreciate the information that you have provided.”  
[NOTE: As far as I’m personally concerned, the behavior of these companies IS a form of domestic terrorism, although the FBI may not.]

It also occurs to me that, particularly on the GreenDot/Prepaid card “payments,” since they are apparently difficult to trace, I seriously doubt they are reporting these funds on their income taxes === tax evasion.  (That’s the way they finally got Al Capone!)  The IRS has forms for reporting suspected evasion, and even a reward form you can complete for if you help them catch the folks!
http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/How-Do-You-Rep ... aud-Activity%3F   (I’m 99% sure it’s the Form 3949-A that you’ll want to complete if you’ve been swindled by these folks.)    It looks like Form 211 is to claim a reward!
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf   -- Form 3949-A
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f211.pdf  -- Reward form

   I personally don’t care WHICH branch of the government goes after these people, as long as THEY get REAL FEDERAL ARREST WARRANTS out on them!!  So, if you’ve been taken in by these folks, besides filing with the above, don’t forget the IRS!  (You KNOW they like going after money!!!)

It may not help, but it certainly wouldn’t hurt to fill the mailboxes at the White House with letters about these folks.  If the President wants to get involved with courts and everyday peoples’ lives, then he needs to get involved in THIS!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact  -- to the right side of the page, there are links for leaving online comments, writing a letter, or calling the White House.



I'd suggest giving a list of time, date, phone number, and anyone's name you were given on these calls...EVEN if you didn't answer or it went to VM.


--------------------------------------------------COMPANY NAMES & INFO--------------------------------------------------------

GOODMAN AND STERN, LLC
Goodman and Stern LLC -- http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... /Goodman/Page12
Articles of Organization for Florida Limited Liability Company -- http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... er=L12000043155
2013 Annual report -- http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... &formatType=PDF

Goodman and Stern have a license as consumer collection agency in Florida
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/SearchLicensingRecords/Search.aspx  )
License info: https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 702&licDesc=CCA
http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-r ... ndo-fl-90168391 --, they have a F rating with the BBB .  Read their responses to complaints and you'll understand why!
If you go to this site and click on "View additional phone numbers," the drop down will reveal:
"Additional Phone Numbers
(888) 779-7118
(888) 591-3948
(877) 588-7426" ****************

For
Goodman and Stern LLC
(888) 314-5992
View Additional Phone Numbers
7751 Kingspointe Pkwy Ste 107, Orlando, FL 32819-6501
Send email to Goodman and Stern LLC
http://www.goodmanstern.com
When you go to their website, you'll see they did, indeed, remove any phone/address, etc. from the site (IF there ever was any).

Scambook -- http://www.scambook.com/company/view/95428/Goodman-Stern-and-Associates

FTC previously went after another company name (no idea if it was these, but sure acted the same):
http://getoutofdebt.org/31596/ftc-goes-after- ... process-servers


Goodman and Stern Associates -- http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?act ... um=G12000035195
Ficitious name registration -- http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/30943953.pdf

GSA Management -- http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?act ... um=G13000019672
Application for Registration of Fictitious name -- http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/20097452.pdf  -- Owners Goodman and Stern, LLC


Goodman and Stern, LLC dba Recovery Services/GSA Management -- https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 702&licDesc=CCA 
Consumer Collection Agency…original license 4/23/12…approval status 12/12/12 …expiration date 12/31/13 … 7751 Kingspointe Parkway Ste 107, Orlando, FL 32819
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/SearchLicensingRecords/Search.aspx  -- shows that Recovery Services/GSA Management Is the only approved and active CCA in Orlando, FL with “Recovery Services”  in the name.

directly connects GSA Recovery, GSA Management to same PO address
----- https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-786-233-6742 --   Megan replies to KJHWILL  --6 Jul 2013
GSA Management
PO Box 593563
Orlando, FL 32859

Fax 888 371 9229
This is the information they gave me when I demanded the contact info for their compliance department

Scambook complaint … by a 63yo retiree … These people don’t have ANY respect for ANYone -- http://www.scambook.com/report/view/253397/Recovery-Services-Complaint-253397-for-$600.00



GSA Recovery -- http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/ficidet.exe?act ... um=G13000019672  -- Reg #G13000025241, filed 3/13/13…expiration 12/31/2018…Multiple counties … Owner: Goodman and Stern, LLC
Application for Registration of Fictitious name -- http://www.sunbiz.org/pdf/40659354.pdf

http://www.gsarecovery.com/#   Toll Free: 1-888-983-3011
TollFree: 1-888-983-3011
Fax: 1-888-906-3083
Mailing Address:
GSA Recovery
P.O. Box 593563
Orlando, FL 32856-3563
© Copyright 2013
GSA Recovery
Caller: Goodman and Stern LLC, aka GSA Recovery, aka GSA Management Orlando, FL  




Also going by:
EIESNBURG, WHITMAN & ASSOCIATES LLC (Should be Eisenburg, but is spelled EIESN on Articles of Organization) -- -- L12000083285. FEI/EIN 45-5578652  – ACTIVE – effective 6/25/12
http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... %20Nathan/Page1 -- Reg Agent & MGRM: Nathan P Dixon…principal address: 7751 Kingspointe Parkway 106, Orlando, FL 32819

Consumer Collection Agency License search – EISENBURG, WHITMAN & ASSOCIATES  License CCA9902836, approved 9/13/12, expires 12/31/2013


--http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-r ... ndo-fl-90197044  --
Eisenburg, Whitman, and Associates
Phone: (407) 802-3206 Fax: (407) 674-2518   7751 Kingspointe Pkwy Ste 106, Orlando, FL 32819-6501Send email to Eisenburg, Whitman, and Associateshttp://www.eisenburgwhitmancca.com
  == C+
On a scale of A+ to FReason for RatingBBB Ratings System Overview


WEB PAGE:  http://www.eisenburgwhitmancca.com/contact-us   -- states they have an “A+” rating with the BBB
Eisenburg, Whitman, & Associates
Phone: (888) 211-9377
Fax: (888) 608-4906
Email: ewandassociates@gmail.com
Consumer Collection Agency
License #: CCA9902836

Hours of Operation
Mon, Wed, Fri: 10am-6pm EST
Tue, Thur: 10am-8pm EST
Sat: Closed
Sun: Closed
Address:
7751 Kingspointe Parkway
Suite 106, Orlando, FL 32819


AND: [updated with this info 8/7/13]
RUBIN AND WEIZMANN, LLC … Florida LLC document #L12000111927, active status 8/25/12, principal address:
8810 Commodity circle, Suite 02, Orlando, FL 32819 …. Registered Agent & MGR: Rick Simmons (same address)
----http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... man%20LLC/Page1
--http://search.sunbiz.org/Inquiry/CorporationS ... man%20LLC/Page1
Consumer Collection Agency license CCA9902847, approved status 12/21/12, license expires 12/31/13 … (same address as above)   https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/SearchLicensingRecords/Search.aspx 
https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 847&licDesc=CCA  
CCA License TERMINATED effective 8/8/2013  https://real.flofr.com/ConsumerServices/Searc ... 847&licDesc=CCA

Rubin and Weizman, LLC.
(888) 980-8166   8810 Commodity Cir Ste 2, Orlando, FL 32819-9065
http://www.bbb.org/central-florida/business-r ... ndo-fl-90173181

  == F
On a scale of A+ to FReason for RatingBBB Ratings System Overview



SUGGESTIONS (again, I am NOT an attorney and am NOT attempting to dispense legal advice.  These are my PERSONAL suggestions)
1-IF you decide to answer one of their MANY calls from about 50 different telephone numbers (no, I’m not exaggerating), give them NO INFORMATION.  In fact, YOU MAKE THEM ANSWER QUESTIONS, and if they don’t, hang up on them!   I don’t know anything about spoofing/masking numbers, but there have been comments that they are VOIP’ing the majority of the numbers they’re calling from.  I do not doubt this, as a person said the number showing on her phone was that of the local police department.
2-Keep a running log of the date, time, telephone number, person calling and note of conversation to file with your complaints.  (Or, try to record the call, BUT they usually hang up when they’re told they’re being recorded.  ROFLOL, now how many LEGITIMATE collection agencies would do that?  NONE that I’ve ever heard!
3-Look up your state’s Statute of Limitations on debts that can be pursued in court (that you can still be sued for).  It seems to vary from 3-15years.
4-DO NOT allow them to intimidate or frighten you.  These idiots have even called the numbers attorneys, police officers, etc. with this scam.  Intelligent, they are NOT.  

USUAL PLOYS:
1-call friends, neighbors, relatives, employers, and you trying to intimidate you into paying JUST to make the calls stop (but, from looking online, they don’t stop…they just demand more). – Ask these folks to also keep a log of the calls, give them this internet page to check.  Ask them to do a search for ANY of these company names.  They’ll soon realize it that these people are nothing but SCAMMERS.
2-“…have important legal documents (or summons) to deliver, will you be home ---(day) from 8:30 to 4:30 to accept it?”
3-“There’s a warrant out for your arrest UNLESS you send us $xxx TODAY”  -- they seem to prefer asking for the “Green Dot” prepaid card and want you to call back with the numbers on back … harder to trace where to $ goes, apparently.

COMPANY NAMES:
Goodman and Stern LLC, aka GSA Recovery, aka GSA Management Orlando, FL  … AND/OR … EIESNBURG, WHITMAN & ASSOCIATES LLC, Rubin and Weizman, LLC.


TYPE OF CALL:
SCAM AND/OR EXTORTION BY A DISREPUTABLE LICENSED COLLECTION AGENCY


By the way, in case you haven’t seen it, complaining DOES help!

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Debt-collect ... qz/-/index.html

Debt collection agency busted in Orlando
Federal investigation results in arrests, search warrants
Published On: Mar 11 2013 12:20:18 PM EDT   Updated On: Mar 01 2013 07:12:52 PM EST