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same, same, same as all the above - I got the 'I'm a marine engineer line' - tried to rip me off ! His trail of correspondence just didn't add up so I told him 'no thanks'

Pleased I came across this site - this guy is trying every which way to rip us all off!

Hi people...today 4th may 2012 got a text from
France williams saying he wants to buy a tourbillon
Watch i've advertised on ebay.
Sent him an email back to follow the ebay prompts
To buy it.
Anyway just so happy to have read all this info on him
Here.
Saad_uk on ebay.
He called from a number 001 571 429 8527

Hi people...today 4th may 2012 got a text from
France williams saying he wants to buy a tourbillon
Watch i've advertised on ebay.
Sent him an email back to follow the ebay prompts
To buy it.
Anyway just so happy to have read all this info on him
Here.
Saad_uk on ebay.
He called from a number 001 571 429 8527

Hi ive just had a text and an email from this guy wanting to my X5, ive given him my email address, is this a problem, how can he take money from my Pay Pal account when there's nothing in there?? he wants to transfer £10500 to me, what shall i do????

hi there had this so call France onto me today over a vehicle i have for sale 05/05/2012 i sent this guy an invoice for a large sum then with his career for some reason just clicked to google him :/ anyways iv spotted this page and all youre comments and canceld the invoice immediately the only infomation they have is my mobile number and email address

can this guy or who ever retrieve any infor through either of these ??

and

how is he scamming ?? what are his intentions

just so i am aware of his next steps

many thanks for your comment hopefully might have just saved my bacon

This sort of person is so hardened in his heart to want to swindle innocent hard working people. May He be rightly judged one day - soon!
And quite frankly, he or whoever is behind this whole scam is such a daft person. I mean, sending the same email to everyone? Well, having said that, a few unfortunate individuals may fall for him.
I wish i could contact gmail (the address server he uses) to trace him and nick him. he deserves to be behind bars in place of bears and tigers.

I knew the moment i got the email that it smelled of fish. he asked for final asking price and i told him, then he comes back with a generic email which made no mention of his acceptance of the price or further bargain.. he is such a lame individual - a low life person who is too lazy to make a decent living. People like this disgust me!!

I sincerely hope no one falls for it

Thanks for the messages, I have had one text message and numerous emails by this France Williams alot today which I will list below:

12/05/12 - First contact: Text message from +15714182976 asking me what my final sale price is for my catering trailer. And asking me to email the selling price to france.williams115@gmail.com (innocent enough right?)
12/05/12 - I emailed that my final asking price is £5000 and to let me know if he would like to come take a look at the trailer (still not thinking anything strange as there has been a few time wasters trying their luck, so it tends to not go any further than the one response.)
13/05/12 - First email from France Williams:
> Hi thanks for reply, i am a marine engineer, i am at sea right now. I
> am buying this for my son as a surprise gift. I can only pay through
> paypal at the moment as i dont have access to my bank account online(i
> dont have internet banking with it), but i have it attached to my
> paypal account, and this is why i insisted on using paypal to pay,all
> i will need is your paypal email address to make the payments, and if
> you dont have a paypal account yet, you can set one it cant take you
> less than 3mins to do that, i will be expecting your paypal email so l
> can pay. I have a pick up agent that will come for the pick up after
> payments has been sorted, l will be waiting for your reply asap..

13/05/12 By this point somewhat concerned, but giving the benefit of the doubt and still email him my paypal email which is also the same as the email address I've been sending him a response to, so luckily no new information there...

13/05/12 - Do the search, come across this webpage and immediately contact paypal, who tells me not to worry, they cannot do anything with only your paypal email.  What these scammers often do, is to make sure they target sales of big value items that cannot be posted.  They then sometimes pay you by paypal, collect the car/boat/trailer etc and then an hour or so later they contact paypal and tell them that they did not do this transfer and instruct paypal to reverse the payment.  The friendly lady at Paypal informed me that if anyone offers to pay via paypal for a high value item (especially if you asked for cash on collection) before coming to even look at the item, and also make any mention of being out of town or it being for someone else, the thing to do is to just refuse it, as once they reverse the payment, you the seller have no proof at all that they collected anything from you (as you normally would have if you were able to post something with recorded delivery etc).

13/05/12 - After this discussion I texted my piece of mind to the +15 number France Williams provided, although I am pretty sure this is like water over a ducks back for these scammers and they probably get a high out of knowing they almost had you!  I thought this would be the end of France Williams, so was quite surprised to get the following emails:

13/05/12 at 14:57 -  I was just about to pay when i had this problem with the pick up, my pick up agent says i will need to pay for the pick up before they can schedule a pick up time, they charged me £400 for pick up and delivery, and payments or pick up made through them is made to their corporate international headquarters which is in the State and the payments is made through western union money transfer, i will add the £450 to the money i will send through paypal as soon as i have made the payments, i will email you and let you know and please i will need you to help me send the money to my pick up agent Hq in the States through western union money transfer, this can be done from any post office ,there is always western union money transfer section in most post offices...,i would have done it myself but we cant bring some of our personal effects along, i am a little incapacitated.....I will appreciate your help here

13/05/12 16:13 - Since the text didn't do the job, I replied to the email and would not repeat on here what my response was...

13/05/12 ANOTHER EMAIL from France Williams - I just want to inform you that i have just completed the payment and i hope you must have been notified in your paypal email about the
payment i made through PayPal, you can check your junk messages & inbox for
confirmation of payment, I have just make the payment of £5,450.,i have
decided to add the amount of £450 which i paid through paypal, So
please i will like you to help me wire the sum of £400 to my agent via
western union so he can be able to come for the pick up and also
paypal said they won't release the funds until they get the western
union information from you due to the fact that i emailed them about
the excess payment i made.i will need you to send the £400 to my pick
up agent Headquarters where they normally confirm any commission
payment to via western union money transfer(this can be done from the
post office, as they usually have a western union agent there or you can
make the transfer online at www.westernunion.com), i
added extra £50 to cover the western union charges which shouldn't be
more than £10-35 but just to be sure i added £50, Here is my pick up
agent Headquarter info needed to get the money sent through western
union money transfer:

Tiffany Matthews,
143 Laurel Ln,
Florence,
South Carolina
29506.
United State.

I will need the details of the transfer once you have sent fund so i
can forward to paypal . . .
1.The MTCN number that is the 10 digits number on the Western Union receipt
2.Sender's name and address used in sending the money
3.Actual amount sent.

Regards
France

These are persistent scammers and any mention of Western Union payment to be made first should send major alarm bells ringing!! Please be rest assured they cannot do anything with your paypal email address, but it is well following your insticts and worth doing a google search first of all (which I should have done and saved myself a bit of worry!)

I too have been contacted by this moron wishing to buy my brothers car after i listed it on gumtree. Within 10 mins of me listing the car i get a message & he isists i send him my paypal details so he can transfer the funds and send a agent to collect the car. Again a suprise for his son.  

After i send a message back saying im not interested in a paypal transaction he then replies again stating he can only do paypal.

Avoid at all costs !

This France bloke had tried to swindle us too. Unbelievable. So glad we did our research ! but seriously i am amazed if he ever makes any money out of this scam, but i suppose he must.
Your response is great Simon, and I am just about to send back an equally good read.

Cannot believe people like this exist. But unfortunatly they do.

Thanks to sites like this, we can voice our opinions too.

As if a merchant seaman, in that capacity of work would seriously spend thousands of pounds on a car which he hasnt even viewed, and has only seen one photograph.
Does he think that does not ring alarm bells to the seller !!!!!

I also have had France call me regarding my brothers car, exact same emails about suprise gift for his son and that a agent can come, but then later cannot come. His son must get some presents!

im just playing along and pretending that ill send money to his agent. what a tosser

I got a text from 015712936489 asking me to email france williams115@hotmail.com regarding him buying my jeep for his son as a supprise he wanted to pay the money into my paypal account and have his agent collect it! I thought it sounded to good to be true so I googled him I got to this page. I am so glad I did when I found out he is a scammer! AVOID EBAY SCAMMER

This guy is sure doing the rounds he sent me a text within 20mins of placing an ad I picked up this scam immediately but some folk would be sucked in I have sent 30+ emails telling him what I think of him scum does not come near!!!!

Also had a text from +1 (703) 468-8766, saying "What is your last asking price for the Peugeot 206 GTi??Kindly get back to me at my email france.williams115 at gmail.com"

Was instantly suspicious, as why wouldn't he just call and ask that, why do I have to email him!? So googled it and found this site.

Thank you everyone for posting and confirming my suspicions!

Same thing, same name same email address within an hour of posting an add for selling a car, word for word the same email as above..

Got a text message asking to email france.williams115@gmail.com

Did...

Hi
Out of curiosity which site did you see the ad on?
Last asking price 800 cash
Let me know, Thanks.

HIS REPLY:
Hi thanks for reply, i am a marine engineer, i am at sea right now. I
am buying this for my son as a surprise gift. I can  only pay through
paypal at the moment as i dont have access to my bank account online(i
dont have internet banking with it), but i have it attached to my
paypal account, and this is why i insisted on using paypal to pay,all
i will need is your paypal email address to make the payments, and if
you dont have a paypal account yet, you can set one  it cant take you
less than 3mins to do that, i will be expecting your paypal email so l
can pay.  I have a pick up agent that will come for the pick up after
payments has been sorted,  l will be waiting for your reply asap..


My reply, after deciding to google his name and finding all of this:

Hi mr. smartarse
Following my decision to google your email address you really would think scammers would make multi accounts
Evidently not
Not falling for it
Cash only
tata.

Thought this was possibly the most polite i could have been, stupid time wasters really!
Will delete and block email now (:

thanks to everyone on this website!!
i was contacted by someone calling himself john bezie posing has the marine engineer character.
i was about to make payment but more research led me to this site.

thanks again

the character RAMBO was referring to was john frezie,
i also recieved a message from him about being a marine engineer out at sea,
i couldnt reach him by phone, he said he couldnt pay pickup agent but yet he could "transfer" money to paypal.
thanks to this website it helped me not loose a great deal of money.
thanks to everyone on this website.

we had the imfamous France Williams character wanting to buy our car as agift for his son.same ole email ping pong as you guys have experienced.we had to laugh when he/she threatened to report us to the police for ignoring his/her emails after allegedly depositing money via paypal.what a completely disallusional scroat. FRANCE WILLIAMS....IF YOU ARE READING THIS...YOU HAVE  BEEN RUMBLED YOU TWONK

same here, he has been emailing me this week 6th june 2012, he obviously copies and pastes his e mails as mine are identical to the others.
he even had the cheek to say he would report ME to the police for not returning his e mails as he has sent the money!!!!!

France Williams scammer tried buy my car  via email but only through PalPal all the story about being at sea as the ones above, something didn't feel right so thank goodness I googled him and found all this info.

Ive had this France william scam.. I actually sent him an invoice via paypal befor i realised it was a scam! Do u think these ppl will hack my information off paypal or will they leave me alone and go on to the next victim?