090078601

It is a company in Pakistan, trying to get business asking you if you have been involved in an accident in the last 3 years.

salam pakistan

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i like this song

Say they are a company based in Manchester called Car Legal Assistance.  VERY VERY persistently asking for information about a car accident and trying to make it sound as if I was OBLIGED to tell them.  When pressed he said that he was phoning from "somewhere else" - I know from the time it took to connect the call that it was from an international call centre.  He could not or would not tell me that date of the accident he was investigating - only that someone was involved in a no fault accident as a driver or passenger and wanted to check the details.  I asked him for the phone number and the name of the company and said that I would check them out and phone him back.  His name was alledgedly James.  He said he knew I was suspicious but that that all he wanted to do was check the details.  He said that he had all the details of the alledged accident registered from my address.  He would nto divulge them but wanted info from me.  I said that I am sure that if he got a phone call like this he would want to check it out as I wanted to do.  I have read elsewhere that someone was threatened on the phone from this number.  His attitude was indeed verging on aggressive. I said again that I would look them up and he asked if he should phone back later and it ended when I said well I was looking it up and I could see that the phone number was on the internet and I was going to read the information now.  During the phone call I mentioned the TPS registration and he said well yes, but I have the information already and need to check it.  Unfortunately, you need to be very assertive and not be put off my the approach that either this particular person or the company generally takes.  Also, I could find no company called Car Legal Assistance in Manchester.  When you look up the number on the internet, it only seems to exist as some sort of parody song.

Just to add:  I've looked up the video and the song and it's quite good!  Don't know if it anything to do with this company.  

The other thing is that the caller told me more than once that the call was being recorded for training purposes which I believe was intended to make me believe that it was an official phone call and, implicitly, that I should be giving them the information.

A gentleman with an Indian/Pakistani accent, asking by the name of the person in whose name the private phone is listed, claiming to represent a company called Accident Management ..... (didn't catch the full nonsense title). He claimed that a person at our address had had a road traffic accident within the last 2 years (that later got shortened to 18 months). Where did they get this information from? The RTA (Road Traffic Authority), ostensibly; his company allegedly 'works with them'. When did he get this information? Only today. When did this accident happen? He couldn't tell me that, "for security reasons". What's the address and phone number of his company? 350 Collins St, Melbourne 3000; and the phone no. of course 090078601.

Now, about the 350 Collins St. Melbourne 3000 address, you can find out about how that works right here: http://www.colbus.com.au/virtual-offices-melbourne.htm. Yes, for a small fee, anyone anywhere can lease a "Virtual Office" at this 'prestigious/impressive' address (if that's the sort of thing that impresses you). Here's what Collins Stree Business Centre say for themselves:

"A Virtual Office or Phone Answering Service allows you to conduct business from almost any location whilst giving your company a professional image with a prestigious business address. A Virtual Office will manage your phone answering, message handling and mail forwarding whilst you concentrate on growing your business. It is a cost effective way to have a business in a prime CBD location."

Oh yes, no surprise, our overseas scammers get a little inside help from LOCAL AUSTRALIAN BUSINESS friends who also make a wee dollar out of facilitating this nonsense! Don't talk about ethics when there's a dollar to be made, right?

Foreign company claiming to be called Swift Claims from Didsbury telling me that I have reported an accident recently, all untrue and other posts suggesting Pakistan could well be true.

i use to work in a call center just like this.....so basically we call random people from a particular country and we tell them that we got a report from Uk national survey department and that they have told us that some1 from ur house had a minor car crash in the last 3 year ( no they dont they are just guessing ) and if u did had a crash then they would help u get your personal compensation.....and that is there job ( and no these calls are not made so that they can steel some cash from u ) so if u decide to cooperate then they will ask some miner info for example

1) your full name and date of birth
2) date , location and the scenario of the accident
3) car registration number ( important )
4) name of you insurance company and how you pay ur premium
5) number of passengers you had ( if you had any and some info about them )
6) name of the person who crashed into ur car ( and they will also ask for some info about him )

after you tell them all these things then they will send you the paper work to ur house.......Now honestly i dont knw what is writen on the papers....so it would be better if u read them 1st......then if u wish u can sign them and send um back to them or u could just dispose them and no harm will be done to u...

now if u call ur insurance company about this thing then they will simply say that its fake ( they are lying ) so ask a lawyer insted he will tell u all the detail about this compensation.....

So these guyz lie that they are calling from Manchester ( for obvious reasons ) they mostly call from India and Pakistan ( the guy who called u was in Pakistan )

and one last thing....you said that u have have read elsewhere that someone was threatened on the phone from the number 090078601.......well ignor the threat he cant do [***] to u or any1 else its all just words.....



hope this Helped :)

Received a call today (3rd. April) from a gentlman with a asian accent. He asked about an accident in the past two years. However the information he had was very garbled, mixing up male and female names. He was obviously fishing for more information. Gave a phone number 090078601 and said his nwme was Steve (did not believe that, sounded more like Masoud!).

Hi,

These people are not calling from Manchester, I am from Pakistan and I went to a call center today to get a job. They handed me this 'script' that they've written. They tell people to keep dialing to unknown numbers that they get from online British phone directory. So they know nothing about any accident and no they don't get their information from RTA or UK national survey department.

But they don't ask you to pay them anything. According to what they told me, this is about the personal claims or claims for whiplash. They said that most of the times people don't know that they are entitled to get a personal compensation if they were involved in a car accident which wasn't their fault. and they are just trying to give those people legal assistance in getting their due compensation from the insurance companies.

And as far as the legitimacy of their services is concerned, I am not sure whether they are actually helping people or not, but they give certain incentives to people in that call center who produce a "qualified case". that is if someone finds a person in uk who hasn't been given their personal compensation after an accident. So I am sure that they are producing revenues because they've been doing this for months now.

I hated the first day at job and planned not to go their again, but my personal point of view is that their approach is wrong but they are actually fishing for some genuine cases through this mass dialing scheme.

Hello,

thanks to you and the other people who have responded to this thread. Your information is very interesting and valuable.

Those of you who have some 'first hand knowledge' of this type of business enterprise (based in Pakistan, and inasmuch as it is targetting UK and Australia) by way of having been employees of this kind of business, seem to have some inclination to 'justify' it, even though, at the same time, you are aware and honest enough to say that, basically, the tactic is based on 'lying'. And yet - interestingly - you also have an inclination to 'defend' this kind of business venture, by claiming that it might, after all, help someone to secure their legal rights to compensation. I would like to make a few comments about this assumption, which I think is rather naive and misguided.

Firstly, I wonder whether any of you would be inclined to accept legal advice, let alone legal assistance, from any business that starts off by lying to you. Do you think that there might be a bit of a contradiction between, on the one hand, claiming to uphold 'law', and, on the other hand, and in the same breath, blatantly (i.e., quite obviously) lying?

Secondly, you suggest that the businesses in question must be making some returns, otherwise how could they keep going for so long. An interesting point. But before you (all too generously) assume that they are actually gaining some legitimate revenue by helping individuals in distant countries win compensation cases (one imagines that there would be some challenging legal gymnastics involved in managing legal proceedings in the UK or Australia from Pakistan) - perhaps you should do some serious research... Is it possible that their revenue, if there rally is any, is gained not from managing serious legal proceedings and winning legal cases for accident compensation, but perhaps - for example - by conning very naive and gullible people into paying "legal processing fees" for legal processes that never actually happen...

In other words, before you justify your role as a naive employee of these very dubious business ventures, why don't you investigate in great detail what actually happens, how it actually works, and let us know the truth about the whole scenario?

Just think of it this way: Imagine that this type of business venture were completely legitimate, and that you (as the call-centre employee, following your little script) were asked to call someone in a foreign country and say: "Hello, I don't really know who you are and I don't know anything about you, but I just wanted to let you know that if you happen to have had a car accident in the past 2-3 years, and if you haven't received any compensation, you might be eligible for compensation. My company would like to offer you a NO-FEE appraisal of any accident you have had, and if we think that you are eligible for compensation, and if you take us on as your legal representatives, we will ONLY ask for a commission IF your case is succesful in court..." If someone approached the matter like that, even though the call was uninvited and interrupted my private home life via my private home phone, I would at least say "No, thanks..." while thinking that (1) at least they were honest about their calling procedure, and (2) at least they have an impressive and convincing strategy, whereby they don't ask for any money UNLESS the legal case is won! But I think I can wait till the end of the world before I ever hear a sales call like that...

Now, I know that you (like all of us) need to make a living... It's very hard if we are told that in order to get our pay we have to say and do quite questionable things... Sometimes people find ways of justifying to themselves what they are asked to do, on the basis of their need to survive... I don't want to judge anyone on this: each person must face his or her own conscience. All I will say is: I would not do it. Even if it meant my own personal suffering due to poverty.

But we all have different ethical standards, and - more importantly - different ethical limits. We all want to believe that we are good, or believe that we want to be good; but our idea of 'goodness' may be very elastic, depending on the push and pull of our economic situation... Many people think: "Well. I'm just the innocent employee, struggling to survive; it's the employer who's doing the wrong thing." On the other hand, in an ideal world, if NO employee was willing to help the employer to do the wrong thing, the employer would immediately, by definition, and in principle, totally cease to be an employer. Interesting thought?

But if you say - "But I still need to pay the rent next week.., etc. So right now, I don't have any ethical option... I have to do any job I can get, even if it is unethical..."

I would then suggest: get together with your colleagues who are in the same ethically exploited and abused situation, as together demand from your government the human right to support yourselves by means of ethical employment. Argue that it is a human right for human beings to be able to live and work ethically! I doubt that even the most corrupt government would be shameless enough to insist publically that unethical employment is better than no employment at all: and if they are shameless enough to say such a stupid thing, then you have rigthful grounds to tackle them and bring them to the ground, as misguiding and misleading and abusing the people they are supposed to represent and protect...

Very persistent caller saying we've had recent small accident - was told not to call again but still rang 3 times more - asked for number and he was happy for me to call him back. Told him I would report him but he said I couldn't

Had yet another call today company stating someone in my household had been involved in a road accident that was not their fault in the last two years.  Caller sounded Asian and the number was unavailable.  when asked called stated his company had obtained my details from the Road Traffic Accident Department.  he gave the contact telephone number as 0900 78601, and gave his name as Arjun Kumar.
Yet another hoax call!

These guys called today, allegedly from "The Road Traffic Accident Department" (love the title!). They wanted to confirm details of an accident I'd had in the last three years at this address.

I asked the caller what this meant - department of what organisation? She told me she was from the government. So it's by now completely obvious that these guys are fake and lying to try to get something, but I was kind of enjoying it. You get a lot of bogus callers (even with TPS, sadly) but this bunch had one of the worst cover stories I'd ever heard.

After a while the caller vanished, to be replaced by a man who then told me he was from the Ministry of Justice ("Department RTA"). I asked him for a phone number (he gave me this one) and when I said it didn't look like a UK number he told me that was because it was a "secure government line". He pointed me to www.rtaassistance.co.uk and when I suggested that appeared to be a company, and not a government department (with or without secure lines!) he said "Oh god...." and hung up. Damn.

I think next time I'll tell them I did have an accident recently, and break down when I tell them about running over a guy who runs a call centre.

I kept them chatting for nearly 8 minutes before they twigged that I was conning THEM. Sometimes it just feels better than hanging up the phone!

I received 5 calls from someone saying they were from Highway Law in Manchester - can't find any trace of them on Google.  Told them I was registered with the Telephone Preference Service and did not want calls asking about a minor accident I had.  They kept phoning back and when I made it clear I was not prepared to listen to them I was told "go and die"

Harassing call from "Rachel" who turned out to be a South Indian guy.  Politely asked to be removed from his call list but to no avail.  Very annoying.

Okay this is all so funny to me. So this number used to be like this weird call service thingy where you could call and listen to music and jokes and stuff (I suppose). And like because it was advertised so much and with that weird catchy jingle (which is what you come across when search for it on google) legit every person in Pakistan still remembers it. And like i think they only way they were even making any money back then was because those calls were so damn expensive and all the little kids out of curiosity used to call the number ( yeah i know because of all of the time my mom scolded my siblings and me about it when we would get the phone bill and these call would be like 3-4x the normal ones)

we're pakistanis. it's how we work.
EVERYTHING is normal here.