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Same thing has happened to me...I am going to file with credit bureaus and police..scary how they get your information...Sounds like a broken record on here...Scary!! Anybody have any updated info????

Exact same thing happened to me!! I was in tears!!!  This message board saved me from a lotttt of trouble with this guy.  I kept saying I couldn't understand him and if he is going to accuse me of fraud he better put someone on the phone who I could understand.  He said "I'll call you back."

they called me as well stating all this legal stuff and the attorney general was going to get me when they file court documents by computer. also they had all my info as well. they kept asking if i could resolve this and i stated no money, he said ask your friends or church, it would be cheaper to pay 630 then 10000 of legal and fine cost. when i went online to check the number, it comes to some in los angles as a cell phone. same guy, kevin johnson. also when i said i had no money they kept putting me on hold.asking if i have ever been arrested, etc.

Got a call from them just a little while ago, guy with a thick accent obviously not American addresses me by my first and last name and says his name name is Andrew and "my social security number has been frozen" and I need to call him back as soon as possible.

I'm a bit concerned that they have my name and number, hopefully they were just phishing for info and don't have anything.

This guy called me saying his name was officer brian asking me why I commited fraud and if thats what my intentions were. He had all of personal information and was more than ready to give it to me. He threatened to have me go to court if i didnt pay them $1150.00. He also claimed that I had took out a payday loan and didnt pay it back which is not true and that they had deposited $800.00 in my account back in January. I asked if this happened way back then how come im just now being notified and he said that its because thy dont like to harrass customers at all. It was my job to contact them. They wanted me to give them my credit card number and all of that stuff. I asked them for a call back number and they gave me this number. They were very rude and i couldnt really understand them. I wonder how many people have fallen for this. Since they have all of my information I closed my cards and ordered new ones, I changed my bank account numbers and I am reporting them to who ever I can.

What online loan company do all of these have in common? I think a class action law suit against the online loan company that leaked this information out would be appropriate. Please post the loan company that you used so we can get together and get the ball rolling.

It's a scam, and all their threats are false and illegal.

The Attorney General of West Virginia recently issued a press release warning consumers about this scam: http://www.wvago.gov/internetloanscam.cfm  (To my knowledge, this is the first time a state attorney general has issued a public warning about these crooks.)

And ABC News just did a report on this scam. Here's the link to the report:  http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=5621205&page=1

Here's some background. This is a very active group of scammers, many of whom are calling from India (and maybe other countries) and are in cahoots with a group of American debt collection scammers. They attempt to extort money from consumers with a myriad of false and illegal threats, and alternately pose as debt collectors, federal and state law enforcement officers, lawyers and bankers. Their trademark is to use meaningless legalese gobbylgook phrases like "We are downloading warrants against you" or "We are filing an affidavit against you." Another trademark phrase is to threaten the consumer with something like this ridiculous phrase: "If you don't pay then only God can help you."

Typical of many financial scams of this variety, they usually demand payment via Western Union or MoneyGram or credit card. They use any number of phony names such as US National Bank, Federal Investigation Bureau, US Legal Investigation Bureau, Hopkins Law Office, Sonic Bank, United Legal Processing, Morgan Associates, United Pay Services, National Processing, White Collar Crime Unit and many more.  These criminals also use many phone numbers from many area codes; they're probably using caller-id spoofing software and/or VoIP to disguise their real location.

The main thing to remember is that anytime someone calls you demanding money to prevent your arrest, or demanding your lawyer's name so they can sue you, it is ALWAYS a scam. No debt collector (let alone criminals posing as debt collectors) has the authority to have anyone arrested for anything. (And it's illegal to them to threaten such a thing.) And since these foreign dirtbags routinely impersonate law enforcement, it's also important to remember that American law enforcement officers aren't in the business of debt collection.  (Debt is a civil, not a criminal, matter.)

The bottom line is, these are criminals trying to steal your money.

A consumer posting a complaint about these same scammers at https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157 notes that 718-831-7157 is associated with an India-based "outsourcing" telephone bank.  Though a reverse search on WhitePages.com shows that 718-831-7157 is an unlisted land line in New York City, information on Debtbuyers.Com shows that that number is used by India-based Intellisourze. (Source: http://www.debtbuyers.com/debtbuyers.asp ) My guess is that it's a VoIP phone number.

This is another piece of the puzzle that fits in perfectly with other information about this scam. There are some reports on 800Notes that have suggested that the crooks behind this offshore scam are also the crooks behind the notorious Bass/Ellis Crosby & Assoc./States Predisposition scams in Florida and Georgia. The interesting thing is that the number of complaints on here about the US National Bank/US Legal Investigation/Federal Investigation scam skyrocketed *after* April 7, 2008 when Florida obtained a $1.3 million judgment against Ted Ellis Crosby, shutdown his operations and barred him from ever conducting debt collections in Florida (http://myfloridalegal.com/newsrel.nsf/newsrel ... 5257424005858A6 ) There's certainly a good chance that the crooks placing these calls from India are doing so on behalf of the American crooks behind the Crosby/Bass/States Predisposition scams.

Here's the contact information for the phone bank in India:

IntellisOurzE BPO
701, Sapphier, Nr. Cargo Motors,
C.G. Road Navrangpura,
Ahmedabad - 9. (Guj.) INDIA.
E-Mail: info@intellisourze.com
Website: www.intellisourze.com

A check on the domain name "intellisourze.com" shows that the website and name registration was created on May 8, just one month *after* the Crosby scams were shut down in Florida:

Domain Name: INTELLISOURZE.COM
Registrant:  Pragra Infratech Pvt. Limited.
Email:  ankur.ranpariya@pragra.com  
908, Aksaht Tower, Nr. ICICI Bank
Opp. Rajpath Club, S.G. Highway
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India 380054
Tel. +91.7926871353
Creation Date: 08-May-2008
Expiration Date: 08-May-2009
Domain servers in listed order: ns5.znetindia.com ns4.znetindia.com
(Source: http://whois.domaintools.com/intellisourze.com )

Though scam calls from these crooks have been going on long before May 8, the frequency of complaints about these calls increased considerably after Crosby was shut down in early April.

This is conjecture, but appearances suggest that Crosby and company were originally running a two-pronged payday loan scam operation -- with some calls being made from Jacksonville, Florida and other calls being made from a phone bank in India (and possibly other countries); then, after the Florida Attorney General shut down the Crosby scams in Florida, the Crosby crooks transferred most of their scam efforts to the India phone bank.

If you are targeted by these criminals, be sure to report them to all the following federal and state law enforcement agencies (most of which you can do online or over the phone):

1) The U.S. Secret Service is responsible for protecting the country's financial infrastructure and payment systems from international and domestic threats. Call or write your local Secret Service field office to alert them to the details of this attempted extortion. The addresses and phone numbers for the local Secret Service field offices are listed at http://www.secretservice.gov/field_offices.shtml or in your phone book.

2) Alert the FBI at https://tips.fbi.gov  Be sure to tell the FBI that you are being targeted by extortionists over the phone. And if the crooks claim to be law enforcement or lawyers, officers of the court or bankers, be sure to include that information in your report.

3) File a complaint with your local police. Most police departments will take a report over the phone.  Be sure to tell them that you're being targeted by an extortionist and give them all the details.

4) File a complaint your state's attorney general, the contact information for whom is at www.naag.org

5) File a complaint online with The Federal Trade Commission at https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/FTC_Wizard.aspx?Lang=en

If these crooks call back, promise them nothing, pay them nothing and tell them nothing other than that you know they're a scam and that you've reported them to law enforcement. (And be sure to report them to all the agencies above each time they call you.)

By the way, here's just a small sample of numbers used by this particular group of scammers. Read the reports and you'll see the same pattern time and again -- phony organization names, thick foreign accents, and oddly worded threats that are so melodramatic and ridiculous that it's laughable:

https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-925-262-1327
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-678-954-6346
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-341-4004
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-856-831-0640
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1140
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-410-505-8128
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-917-464-2534
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-210-858-6602
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-888-775-2121
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-949-743-1156
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-1402
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-245-0922
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-214-723-5572
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2863
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-718-831-7157
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-904-425-2857
https://800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-858-244-0444

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"How is a sincere criminal going to get ahead in his profession if his victim fails to cooperate?  Almost all crime depends on the acquiescence of the victim.  If the victim refuses his assigned role, the criminal is placed at a disadvantage." -- Robert A. Heinlein, 1985

The main question I have is: are the online loan companies "selling" our information to these people, or are they hacking into their system.

ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN CONTACTED BY UNITED LEGAL INVESTIGATION BUREAU NEEDS TO CONTACT THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION (FTC) AT WWW.FTC.GOV IMMEDIATELY AND FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST THEM!! CONTACT YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE (WWW.NAAG.ORG)TO FILE A COMPLAINT IMMEDIATELY!!

DON'T BE SCAMMED AND ABUSED BY UNITED LEGAL INVESTIGATION BUREAU!! CONTACT THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION AND YOUR STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS OFFICE A.S.A.P.

RECORD CALLS FROM THESE CROOKS! KEEP THE RECORDING AS EVIDENCE AND CONTACT ALL AVAILABLE LAW ENFORCMENT AGENCIES IMMEDIATELY.

FTC - www.ftc.gov

State Attorney Generals Office - www.naag.org

Local Police Dept.

FBI - www.tips.fbi.gov

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU OWE A DEBT, YOU HAVE RIGHTS AFFORDED TO YOU BY THE FAIR DEBT COLLECTION PRACTICES ACT (FDCPA) AND DO NOT HAVE TO BE ABUSED BY DEBT COLLECTORS OR TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF BY SCAMMERS!

BY THE WAY, THERE IS NOT DEBTOR'S JAIL (EXCEPT FOR TAX EVATION, FRAUD OR IDENTITY THEFT) BUT NOT FOR PERSONAL CREDIT CARD DEBT, LOANS, ETC. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BE ARRESTED FOR HAVING A DELINQUENT CREDIT CARD ACCOUNT OR STUDENT LOAN OR PAYDAY LOAN!

How ironic. I just got a call yesterday from some guy name steven.  Left me a message on my home phone that there was a charge filed against me for internet fraud and theft.  Said I took a payday loan from Crown Lending.  When I called the number they left me, a 917 area code they sound like they are Indians or Pakistanian, the guy answered Hello, can I help you.  I asked him what company was this and he said they were not a company but a group of lawyers.  I told him I did not apply for any loan from Crown Lending.  He said Crown Lending was the parent company for over 300 payday loan websites.  I told him that he has to get the exact name of the payday loan website I owe money before I talk to him any further.  He said he would get back to me with that today.  Haven't heard anything yet

How ironic. I just got a call yesterday from some guy name steven.  Left me a message on my home phone that there was a charge filed against me for internet fraud and theft.  Said I took a payday loan from Crown Lending.  When I called the number they left me, a 917 area code they sound like they are Indians or Pakistanian, the guy answered Hello, can I help you.  I asked him what company was this and he said they were not a company but a group of lawyers.  I told him I did not apply for any loan from Crown Lending.  He said Crown Lending was the parent company for over 300 payday loan websites.  I told him that he has to get the exact name of the payday loan website I owe money before I talk to him any further.  He said he would get back to me with that today.  Haven't heard anything yet

i know this is for 310 number but mines came from 646-289-8345, also when he first called me it was on a Tennessean number, which is where i live then told me to call him back on a new york number, same guy. so i called him, his name was john, he was Indian i believe anyway he told me that i took out some a payday loan and that i owned them 4,000 plus 1,000 and then if i didn't pay it i was going to jail for check fraud, a cop was on his way to arrest me. i asked him to give me some information on the payday loan, he said it was against the law. i told him i would pay it off. he gave me all this information that he wanted me to fax it to him. i told him ok. i got on this website and read every thing. then called the police department and told them everything.the cop told me it is against the law from some to do that. this john guy even read me my rights. don't pay them anything its a fake.

thanks you guys from this website.
h. murad

I have had a couple of calls from these guys too.  My caller has represented herself as Officer Cheryl Johnson and also has a very thick accent, as well as very poor grammar.  They first called me in about March or April, I think.  I called back just because I couldn't make heads or tails out of voicemail message they left.  About a nanosecond into the conversation, I knew it was a scam, so I just told her that they could go ahead and send someone out to arrest me and that I'd have my brother, the attorney bail me out and handle everything from there.  She then hung up on me and I didn't hear anything more from them until this past Friday (July 3, 2009).  She left a voicemail message.....same garbage as before.  I just deleted the message and didn't bother to call back.....I haven't heard anything else since then.  I would advise everyone to just hang up, don't return calls and don't give out any info.  However, I wouldn't worry too much about what they do have....I haven't had any problems in my bank account, credit report (which I monitor regularly anyway just to be safe) or in any other way.  Also, if they intended to just take money out of your bank account, they wouldn't go to such lengths to try to get you to send it.....they'd just take it.  That being said, it is always a good idea to monitor your 3 credit bureau reports on a regular basis anyway just to be sure there isn't anything there that shouldn't be.

happened here in St Joseph, Mo too

The same thing happened to me and i don't know what to do they had my social and they called me at work saying i was being sued for internet fraud which is weird because i thought they were suppose to summons you to court not call you at your place of work saying that u are bein sued i need someone's help please

Got call twice in 30 minutes wanting to confirm my address. Told them I was on computer looking where they are calling people about fraud. Told them first time go to HE--. Next time told them to kiss my  GRITS!!. Am blocking their call..

Called me I added them to my long call block list don't trust scammers