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Prime west threatned my 82 year old grandmother with court if she did not pay a debt over the phone.I spoke with Vega who threatened court if we did not pay.  Not to mention he refused to send any info in writing unless we paid over the phone first.  He said the bill was $6000-$7000 because of their fees but of course offered a settlement for $2000-$2300 but once again had to be paid over the phone or we would be taken to court & have to pay $6000-$7000 + $2500 in legal fees.  He first gave the impression like he was a lawyer & denied that this was a collection company but a management company for the lawyers who will file suit. And he did not have any info about the credit card except date opened and account number but was sure to tell me that it would be impossible for me to get any info because banks changed hands & sell the account.  I pulled all 3 of her credit reports & nothing from this company or amt is any of them.  Of course he had an excuse for that.  This company is practicing illegal debt collecting.  I filed with FTC and BBB.  Please do so too so something can be done about this company.

i got a phone call from a man stas a lie a wting that i owed 2000 dollars on a unpaid credit card, i tld
them that was a lie i didnt even have a credit cthe ard, they insisted i did and it was seriously delinquent, they called off my ss# and said if i didnt pay within the hour or set up payments, then in would have to pay 3000, i knew that was a lie and hung up,, well after looking at my credit report i noticed a hard inquiry on it from PMR bulk purchasing company, it dropped my score by 23 points and so i called the # for PMR and what do you know but that they are not accepting phone calls at this
time..... i am pissed, i have worked really hard to get my score up and for some [***] to scam you
like this is just sorry.... the credit reporting agency told me to contact in writing the credit bureau to
remove it but dont know if i will be successful, i hope something is done soon about these so called
people...

I receive a phone call both on my home phone and Mobil phone today from the same people. The number I was instructed to call was 866-676-2140

MY message started out as: Thank You. My name is Sara Walker. The message was: We have received a complaint on you. My suggestion is to call the following number - 866-676-2140. Gave a case number and suggested I contact the person who has my case number within 24 hours or they will execute the order.

I see I'm not the only person violated by these people. This is totally wrong! Scared the [***] out of me when I heard the message. Had me all riled up all day while I was at work.

I hope these SOB's get caught and get what they deserve! To scare and harass people is JUST NOT RIGHT!

Good Luck Everyone.....

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"He first gave the impression like he was a lawyer & denied that this was a collection company but a management company for the lawyers who will file suit. "

It is all an act.  It's a "con".  Fake "process server" calls, usually to relatives.  Threats that they have "sued", (supported by the "process server" calls).  They were trying to panic your grandmother into "settling" some alleged "debt" without any proof she actually owed them anything.  They commonly pull credit reports to get information usefull in this scheme, including old account information, available credit lines.  Your grandmother's age would also assist in determining that she might be particularly vulnerable to this scam.

ANY company or person that attempts to collect an allegedly delinquent consumer debt is by definition a "debt collector" under federal (FDCPA) and state laws.  Claiming otherwise is deceptive, an attempt to evade the consumer protections of the FDCPA, and a violation of that law.  It doesn't matter what they call themselves, but they sure have the excuses ready for why they don't have to comply with what every legitimate debt collector routinely follows.  


"Not to mention he refused to send any info in writing unless we paid over the phone first. "

Others have reported this same line.  About all anyone ever gets out of them is some vague "settlement" letter, with ambiguous identification of the alleged "debt", if you get anything at all.  They are also often reported to avoid U.S. Mail, and just send this by email, probably to avoid mail fraud charges.  FDCPA gives consumers the right to dispute and demand proof of alleged debts, yet they have all the excuses ready for why they don't have to give any proof.  


"He said the bill was $6000-$7000 because of their fees but of course offered a settlement for $2000-$2300 but once again had to be paid over the phone or we would be taken to court & have to pay $6000-$7000 + $2500 in legal fees. "

That is generally how they play this "con".  They appear to have some information on an old account, claim a lot is owed, and that they have "sued" or will "sue", and play up the amount including made-up "fees" if you don't "settle".  They also play up your inability to obtain any information on this alleged "debt", which if they actually went to court and you challenged their claim, THEY would have to prove.  They are looking for suckers, trying to panic you into paying with no proof any debt is really owed to them.


"And he did not have any info about the credit card except date opened and account number but was sure to tell me that it would be impossible for me to get any info because banks changed hands & sell the account. "

They are reported to pull consumer credit reports to  obtain information on old accounts to use in this scam.  His access to date opened, creditor name, and account number, but nothing else, is consistent with obtaining information from your grandmother's credit file.  

Pull all three credit reports and look for a recent inquiry under one of their many names, like PMG, HGG, ARM, AF Group, Prime West, etc.  That will show you where they got the old account information.  In addition, look for "promotional" inquiries (normally indicating a lender obtained names meeting certain criteria in order to market an offer of credit), under a name you do not recognize as a bank or normal lender, to see if they are buying "lead lists" from one of the credit reporting agencies.

" I pulled all 3 of her credit reports & nothing from this company or amt is any of them.  Of course he had an excuse for that.  "

You are unlikely to find their "tradeline" as a collection account.  Look for an inquiry, showing that they pulled a copy of her credit report.  It might be under a name different from what they called you under, as they operate under many names to hide the extent of their operation.

Others have reported attempts to collect on nonexistent "First National Bank of Deleware" or "HSBC" "accounts".  What was the name of the alleged original creditor?


Contact FTC, your state Attorney General;, the California Attorney General, and the Riverside office of the FBI.  Make it clear that they attempted to con your aged grandmother with this fraud.

They routinely run this scam by having the fake "process server" first call a relative, often in another state, prior to contacting the target victim.  It appears to be an attempt to create panic and embarass the victim, with the goal to extort payment without any proof of the alleged "debt".

They appear to be pulling credit reports to get information on the supposed "debt from old account data, then using skip-tracing or "people locating" services to find possible relatives.  Having pulled a recent credit report, they would have current address information, so the rest is all an act to perpetrate the con.

I got a harassing phone call that sheriff department is investigating me. The guy calling didn't know anything about me, if my phone number is a cell (kept asking about this), or in what city I'm in. I didn't tell him anything such as my name, address, anything like this because it sounded weird to me in the first place. Then he got "official" kind of angry and told me that the sheriff dept. from another county is investigating me and we'll meet in court. Really? Investigating me for what?!? Hung up on me. What could this be??

It's the Corona Scam.

They use at least 30 names, with mail drops scattered around Corona CA, Lake Elsinore,etc.

Their standard MO starts with a call from a fake "process server" often to a relative, implying a lawsuit, or an investigation for "fraud", but leaving a number to call back.

If you call back, they peg you as a sucker, and try to convince you you owe some old "debt".  Be aware they may have pulled your own credit report, so they can often feed you information on an old account that might sound familiar.

Contact the Riverside office of the FBI.