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personally , I think your program is fantastic.!!! I never believed i could do so much on a computer let alone create and publish /launch a web site. you people are fantastic at both training and mentoring. I have my site live and am still working on it and with your guidance it will become a great money making opportunity to expand my income....THANK YOU FOR ACCEPTING ME INTO YOUR PROGRAM, IT IS MORE THAN I REALLY EXPECTED. - Raymond

I think that the training I have received thus far has been great! Not to fast, and not to slow, and definitely not to long. I also enjoy the fact that I can go back and view the training again on my own time and catch anything I may have missed the first time...

I would like to state that many of the "positive" comments about Ivy Capital abover were probably posted BY Ivy Capital.  I say this for a couple reasons.  First, the positive comments were all in a row....which I think is interesting, personally.  And secondly, I've read that "Raymond" comment on at least 2 other websites - cut and paste.

I'm not dismissing the idea that there ARE satisfied customers out there.  But I simply won't truly believe it for myself until I meet a couple in person because these people seem to be cunning liars.

For example, I had someone from their company tell me that he could only find ONE complaint on Rip off Report.  He said he had the website up directly in front of him, and could only find one.  After I hung up with him, I found a total of 33 records of complaint on that about their company on Rip Off Report.  And yet Ripoffreport continues to insist they have excellent customer service.  I say that Ripoffreport is making a nice chuck of dough on the side for making those uplifting statements about Ivy Capital....which makes them co-conspirators in my mind.....equally guilty if they know the truth and turn a blind eye.

A guy named Jake Fox called said that he was affliated with Shawn Casey yet has never met the man in person.  His contact number was 888-514-6020, X213. He was at that extension, and the answering service gives the website of info@ici.com to contact for further coaching information. Odd, this has nothing in common with Shawn Casey or his website.  
Jake is a quick talking young guy who was not interested in wasting any of his time if I did not seem excited about commiting to his program. His offer included a six-month coaching session asking for nothing in return but to recieve a success story that he can use to promote his business concept to the public.  
He was very much concerned with my credit card limits and balances.  In fact, on one call he gave me five minutes to call the numbers on the backs of the cards to come up with accurate limits and balances, which he needed to know so that he would have an accurate starting point of how fulfill those life goals of (1) 100% debt free, (2) Retirement, and (3) Financial Independance.
When I told him that of the two cards with high balances I cut those cards up and did not have them in my possession anymore, he gave me the website "instantopm.com" to go to and obtain a new credit card so that he would have an accurate balance and limit report where I could start off fresh. He mentioned that to make money I could leverage the bank's money at for the starting up of my internet marketing business and become debt free as result of the six months of expert coaching so he has another success story to talk about.
This sounds so much like all of the other reports on this site, could this be a mere coincidence, I think not. Is the acronym ICI really mean Ivy Capital Inc.? Jake was not interested in hearing my answers to the homework he gave me, nope, the only idea in that guys head was credit availability.  
Thank you for establishing this site and yet I have to thank young Jake for sending me to instantopm.com because without going to that site I would never have had the eye opening experience of reading these other posts about the same company promoting coaching from the sams 888-514-6020 number. You saved unsuspecting person from making a big mistake and throwing dollars at just another scam.

I initiated the call from 213-514-5323 by requesting info about 1 on 1 coaching from an ad at connection2wealth.com,a John Denton site.They gave me the same # 888-514-6020 to call them back.They were asking me a lot of the same questions as above post's and Im supposed to talk to them again later in the week.I will return and update when we speak again.However, From what info I have found on the WWW,John Denton is supposed to be a top rated internet marketer/mentor by a number of legitimate home business news letters,reports,etc... However,I have no previous dealings with John or anyone else on the net,but I have talked to John on the phone on a few occasions and he seem's like he is a straight up and honest businessman.He has never even touched on the subject of selling me anything and has giv'en me some very valuable info that has saved me a lot of time and $$$$.He has also sent me a lot of free software etc(108 website templets and a lot of other downloads that Im sure I will be using as soon as I can figure out how to use them).Im a newbie that is trying to go at it alone that needs some coaching too.Im not putting down on anyone for their opinion,but I do agree that you/I can't call it a scam if we see a red flag or two,but we can all pretty well sniff one out when there are numerous flags and it IS obvious.My opinion is to READ BLOGS,FORUMS,ETC,CHECK B.B.B.etc...Take your time and reasearch and make intelligent business decisions before we buy into anything,these people and these programs are not going anywhere or going to be gone in a day or two.And yes,I practice what I speak,I have been researching over two months now,full time(Im unemployed)and I have not bought into anything yet.If anyone would like to combine our heads to try to piece all this together and help each other out by sharing info,Im at; '' david355@live.com''    Before I go,there is one program Im looking at real hard,it is; ''copynprofit.com'' If anyone has actually tried it I would like to know if it is legit.''Success to all'', David355

Some of the posts on this site make me sick.

I invested 15 thousand dollars into this company and I'll admit I was extremely hesitant. Now its eleven months later, and I'm able to vacation with my family twice a year, and all of my debts, including my Mortgage is paid off!!!

call this number 8885146020/go to extension 803/its the king of
this whole deal/kyle lang/this phone goes to
parkville, missouri/shane hackkets company/
triad media/vianetwebzone
or dial 816 223  8335 to talk directly to shane hackkett on his cell
who is the king of triad media/vianetwebone
ask him to return your money/

Called me and wanted to help me start a computer business. He gave me a call back name: Rick Cartwright

We were scammed too

Hope to get at least some of our money back.
Over 6 months now and still no money made.

I've dealt with Ivy Capital before and their so called Success Team!  Did anyone get the OPM story? How you invest OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY? Oh yes, they went on about how when I go to a bank and deposit money, what do I think happens to it? Because it doesn't go in a box with my name on it. No, it gets loaned out to other people. So when you take out a loan, it's not your money but other people's money!  Whatever, I still have to pay that money back [***]!  OH! And another thing, those SUCCESS TEAM MEMBERS... they all use different names.  Had "several" people call me when they found out my limit was $3200. Amazingly enough same people, different names. DON'T TRUST THEM! Do a charge back and cancel your card. Charge back costs the company money and you get your money back.

this a big scam...they want your credit card info so they can rip you off....these few comments praising this company the scammers themselves..they would not even give me the name of their company when i pretended to be interested.

i agree VianetWebzone are scammers, i cancelled my subscription they took $915 from my credit card and now  they threatened me that they will sue me because they said that i already signed the contract last January 22,2010, i cancelled january 27,2010. They want more money, these people put me in misery of depths.. I cancelled my credit card number..

never ever give  your real credit card charge limit .  when you do that at least they are not scamming you for over your limit.  they got me for over 10,000.00.  it is because they are salesmen and salemen have a good line and know how to work on your vulnerability. remember if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  I too am requesting my money refunded again they e-mail you and tell you they will ,but never do. and you are right if you get a call from 888-514-6020 and you message comes on they never leave a message.  I have gotten so many different people call me from there I am about to lose my mind.  that is purposely done.  to throw you off.  I just hang up.  I got am e-mail from a matthew yack who is suppose to be the director of customer relations for ivy capital.  and he said they are refunding but nothing yet.  they just say what you want to hear.  listen you can also put in a complaint with the federal trade commission and the bbb in nevada where their office is located.  and also call your bank or credit card dept and let them know that the charge from them is not authorized.  they actually called the bank with out me and doubled the original amt. so yes, they are a scam.  I read another complaint from someone who worked for ivy capital and said some of these salesmen or women give fictictious names as told by their managers. so mentioning names does nothing you must go after the company as a whole and the company who you actually spoke with,. with me it was ici success inc.  no e-mail address for them.  good luck

yes  they did the same to me.  I will tell you what I told someone else.  regardless of what others are saying, about them helping them.  their goals were probably not that high. honey, they took me for 10,000.00 and I am still trying to get my money back.  you see it is not only the upfront charges but the monthly fee of 39.95 for the web site and using the internet space.  that would automatically come out of your credit card.  never ever ever give your true credit limit to anyone.  they used me and called the bank with out me and doubled the original 5,000 dollars and added 1.00 for whatever.  I put a claim in with the federal trade commission and the bbb in nevada as ivy capital is located in las vegas.  you will get a response from them .. you can actually fill in a complaint form over the internet that goes directly to them. explain to them what happened and the amt you were scammed for.   I also read the rip off report about ivy capital , they scam more people than they help.  some of those people were lucky.  but read the complaint from some former employees.  remember they also will fire some of them if they do not use fictictious names .  some of those people give their real names but when you try to reach them you can never get them.  oh they will call you back sometimes, but if you are asking for a refund, or tell them something is telling you no, they start with the psychiatric talk and work on your vulnerability,  you just need to hang up on them.  Good Luck

oh but if you go to the federal trade commission web site you will see that ivy capital scammed more people than they helped.    they are a scam as they should not be asking you what cards you have and what your credit limit is on each one.  they will actually figure out by the amts you give them what amt you can afford to invest per say in their scheme.  I have a legitimate case as they actually called the bank with out me and changed the original amt from 5 thousand to 10 thousand plus. their excuse, you will make enough to pay off the card in one month.  but do not tell anyone you did this, as what do you think they will say,  I said that I am foolish to do that. and you know what they are right.  when you try to reach them and leave a message that you are not sure, they call you back upset and start using their psychiatric approach to get you to submit to them.  they got the wrong person in me.  they are thieves in disquise, some people who actually did this with them, did not make enough to pay bills as needed and their coaches didn't care.  they are the ones who are stuck paying back a credit card, with money that does not exist.  so think about this , if something sounds to good to be true. it is.  beware

oh yes, I got the opm story too. other peoples money,  I told them that is not right,  he said let me explain, well he went on with the story as this. when you create your website and people come to your site and buy they are paying you and that is how you will pay your credit card.  be real,  with all the people with websites out thee what the blank makes you think they will find mine..  I told him in not so many words that I had better make enough to pay that card in full.  he started laughing and said I was a funny person.  I almost went through with this and what stopped me, was this idiot called my bank without me and had the original amt of 5,000 changed 10,000 dollars plus.  I was so infuriated that I immediately found the website for the federat trade commission  and filed a complaint with them as I also did with the better business bureau in nevada, as Ivy capital in located in las vegas.  I was told they are in california, but that is not true, first lie,  and yes I am aware that they use fictictious names so they cannot be traced back.  they are told to do this by upper management.  regardless it is still ivy capital, with different subsidiaries.  mine was ICI Success inc.   they as I said to the ftc should be shut down.  when a company regardless if you run one from out of  a building, from home, or the internet start scamming people and making money off you. no questions asked they should be shut down with as many complaints on them as there is.

well I guess they liked you.  they actually called my bank without me and changed the original investment from 5,000 to 10,000.now it is over my limit.     do not think that I am made of money trust me honey I am not.  another thing my person literally laughed at me when I said I had better make enough this month to pay my card.  I had never had such a huge charge to pay.   I learned to never ever give anyone the true charge limit on my card.  they act like psychiatrist and use your vulnerability and the financial situation.  other peoples money.  if your business does not make out, trust me honey, they will not give the next six months free. and remember the website fee is yours to pay regardless after the first month.  this site is not the only site for complaints, MY complaint is in with the ftc and the bbb in nevada.  and just to let you know. most people who you deal with from there are using fictictious names as they are told to do by upper management.  this way if you have to trace them back, the company will say no one works here by that name.  so you must take your business to Ivy capital and their subsidiaries mine was ICI Success inc.  they told me they are located in california, but they are really in las vegas , nevada.  good luck to you.  you are one of a few that they helped.  they have to have a real success story to keep their company in good standing.  that is another thing I did not like about them.  they only wanted and he kept saying a good testimonial . they say the same things to everyone and just to let you know there are a few complaints from former employees were are honest people and they just had to turn them in.  I want this company shut down.  they are scam artist believe me

I used to work for these clowns. Believe it or not they are all mormons LOL. The owners are Kyle Kirschbaum, John Harrison and Steve Lyman. They all live in the Green Valley section of Las Vegas. It is a complete SCAM!!! Those here claiming success are probably John. He is the idiot of the bunch and not allowed on the phones. Kyle is a complete [***], you can find his address if you search a little in the Henderson/Green Valley area of Las Vegas. His wife's name is Kiersten Kirschbaum.

http://www.facebook.com/kkbomb - Kyle's Facebook. Notice a lot of the people who called you are his friends .

http://www.facebook.com/johnivyis - John Harrison

yeah these guys are scumbags. I quit because of that.

If only I had found this site in January 2010. Yes, I too have been ripped-off by these B*******!
They took payment of $3000USD from me in January and initiated, what they refer to as "coaching". Someone by the name of Paul Barker would telephone at 16:00 UK time on a wednesday and "tutor" me in how to start an on line business. The calls lasted for about 40min each; there were a total of 5 calls; one lasted for only 10min as the "tutor" said he could not make contact? Over the course of the 5 weeks, I was taught absolutely nothing. The tutor insisted on me using their own (FLS) web site builder which, when compared to MS Frontpage is useless. I tried for days to load my web page, sales letter, etc to their system only to fail miserably. The "tutor" was no help at all. He only told me to keep referring to the video tutorials on the FLS site. When I gave the "tutor" a list of the domain names I would use, he told me they "were not good" so i paid yet more money for more domains. He even instructed me to direct my new web page to THEIR CHOSEN SERVER and not the one I already used. More money for their partners no doubt? One week I sat in front of my pc for an hour waiting for the pre-arranged phone call. No call arrived. Some hours later, I received a voicemail from the "tutor" to say that my tuition calls had been completed but he forgot to mention this the previous week! What a scam! Yes, I too have fallen for it and I am now in contact with the Akron Police Dept and the local BBB Trading Standards with a view to charging the company, and particularly the so-called CEO, Lanty Paul with fraud....watch this space. Be aware people. Avoid this lot like the plague!

Amazing!! I really am glad it worked for you....I guess it was easier to get involved when it only costs  a bit.  after asking the difference in my credit limits and what I owed, amazingly, they were willing to "coach" me for the difference,  12,650..or, as low as 8260...  needless to say, I didn't go for that. when I said no, they said I wasn't motivated enough because I made too much money, and they liked to work with people who had a lower credit rating!  that seems strange.  I was just not comfortable with that much of a "hard sell"