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Chris,
I am just am just a outsider (z) looking at your comment and the ones listed above and they make me chuckle a little bit, I must admit!

I have no affiliation with this company,  I do know plenty about this coaching industry and find these threads are comical to follow!

I think your tall tale is a little fabricated from hearing other things throughout this industry in Utah and other posts!

You're surprised about these individuals and their company having minimal rip off reports?? From the looks at it, it only seems people who quit their employment there or claim to been fired there have issues with these guys? Customer or consumer complaints seem very minimal and are far and few in between!

I would say this sounds more like upset ex-employees and jaded lovers giving them their support! It sounds like their clients are taken care of for the most part!

Now lets really get into your post and comments lol!

So you worked there a full year from 2009 huh? Well why now in 2011 are you speaking up and going after these people? Also if you made this company so legit like you suggested, why a few sentences later you state and I quote: "they have not made good with any of the previous clients"

I thought you cleaned up and made the biz legit? That makes absolutely no sense!!?? I did research on not only the people and companies above but I researched you too Chris and found out they paid you 20$ an hour to clean that up?

I  also discovered you said that you didn't want to coach their "dumb clients anyway" and you left because you were mad about your pay being cut from 20$ an hour down to like 12$ or 13$ an hour lol.. Because you wouldn't coach and I quote "their dumb clients anymore"!!! lol

Also I heard they gave you full medical and health insurance while your wife was pregnant and you do have 5 kids right???

I am sure you took full advantage of those things, only to quit on "your legit biz that you personally turned around"?? and the clients that you seem so much to care about by posting this hahaha!

Sounds like to me someone is just upset their pay got cut because you couldn't perform maybe?? Not sure what the full story is? again just an outsider doing research!

I did research on these guys as well: Aaron Christner, Ryan Jensen, and Derek Price, (along with the executives, Spencer Barton and Ryan Morgan)

All your information is old an outdated! Which means it's more than likely fabricated and your story has holes everywhere!

Now to cover your 1,2,3 listed below:
1) I am stating it again :Your info is outdated and false!

2) I did research on Glen Minson-- He sounds like a scam and a crook himself! I found claims of him taking bribes, working settlements "out of court" and much more:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/government-services/utah-dept-of-consume/utah-dept-of-consumer-protect-d93a3.html
http://www.ripoffreport.com/tutoring/utah-consumer-protec/utah-consumer-protection-glen-824cf.htm
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/requesting-a-refund-c291858.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/thrive-learning-institute-c291858/page/1.html

Hell if you asked me,  I would say Glen was involved with Mark shurtleff and his Scam! Mark is the new Attorney general in Utah!

They both worked in the division at the same time ironically, and both know this industry so well! Guilty buy association anyone? Just like Chris Reid is guilty by association? BRIBE TAKER!!
http://saltydroid.info/mark-shurtleff-attorney-general-of-mlm/

SO I wouldn't trust Glen or the Consumer Protection Division of Utah as far as I could throw them! I really really wouldn't doubt you get a take in the bribe as well Mr. Christopher Reid 801-793-817!!! Maybe a bribe payout or referral for pimping out Glen's name and the state of Utah!

You are an affiliate marketer right? Same scenario Chris gets part of the take down or affiliate commission with the state for trying to fine them and lie about false promises to clients?!

3) Speaking of promises, You heard them give promises that aren't in compliance with the State of Utah?? HMMMMM

A few lines down you said they are no longer in Utah?? So then how are they in violation with Utah?? Or once again is this just you making stuff up to get part of your bribe from the state?

Also if you haven't been there since 2010 how do you know they are still doing this or still pitching that way if in fact they were pitching promises like that to begin with??

I hear you stole their company information and tried to go to Glen with it?  SO in fact you are getting part of the bribe money???

Hey Chris isn't coaching/ mentoring usually a self based effort program?? Can you guarantee anyone will make money in any business?? Either these guys your speaking about above are completely [***] to  so called "pitch promises" or you are fabricating your story!

-- Which I think you are fabricating for a bribe?? But we can let everyone else decide! The Writing is on the wall! lol

In the end Being and outsider reading your post, I think you're a typical morning f*** based out of Utah! It seems the devious and scandal-is people seem to be very very religious especially the Mormons like Mr. Christopher Reid, Mr. Glen Minson  and all the other judgmental, fraudulent  LDS Mormons in Utah!

Does anyone else see the trend of these  dirty, lying sac-religuous Mormons in Utah?

Utah just passed legislation to eliminate people like Chris Reid and Glen Minson  for Affinity Fraud because they use Religion as their front read this story: http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=14233858

Believe what you want, at the end of the day I see a nice white lie produced by Chris Reid!

If you do have issues with these people Chris has mentioned above! Try contacting them?? I know they are still sitting there in Murray everyday and everyone thinks they relocated! lol.. Which Far from right so get your facts straight Naive Mormon!!
Outsider (z)

Also one last note Mr. Reid sent a resume to someone and used Mad cow Productions/Level 11 Mentoring on his resume!! From the sounds of this below it looks like you are Mad Cow Productions and Level 11 Mentoring??

What I got out of it is if I am mad at these companies I need to speak with you so you can resolve?? Sounds like Chris Reid made all the decisions and owned and operated those companies?

Hell I see you have gone from coaching floor to coaching floor? IT would be my guess you go around stealing every business's info to create your own guaranteed online results that's your company too right??? Told ya him and Glen Minson the "BRIBE TAKERS" stealing people's stuff for their own gain!~

Chris Reid
4632 S 200 W #15, Murray, UT
84107
(801) 747-9889
brainiacslounge@gmail.com
PROFILE SUMMARY
Executive Level Management in Marketing, Business Operations, and
Fulfillment, with a cumulative 10 years experience in both Small and
Mid-size businesses.
· Proficient in Analyzing and Improving ROI
· Expertise in Preparing and Executing Marketing Plans
· Experience with a wide variety of online and offline
marketing venues, including CPC, CPM, CPA, Direct Mail,
Email Campaigns, Media Buys, and non-traditional Guerilla
Marketing.
EXPERIENCE
Mad Cow Productions/ Level 11 Mentoring 2009 – 2010
Marketing Director/ VP of Operations
Mad Cow Productions is the parent company of Level 11 Mentoring
· Oversaw the sustainability and profitability of Level 11
Mentoring, while cutting unnecessary costs and increasing
productivity
· Compiled and Executed Marketing Plan for Mad Cow Productions'
Lead Generating websites
· Responsible for advertising decisions, which included CPA, CPC,
Email Marketing, Banner Advertisements, Direct Mail, and Media
Buys
Through my lead, we were able to build lead generating websites
which saw sales growth of 2% and enabled Mad Cow Productions to
become recognized as one of the up-and-coming industry leaders.
Brainiacs Lounge 2005 – 2010
President
· Managed and Trained new business consultants and sales force
· Oversaw all aspects of Business, Marketing, and Sales
· Assisted Startups and Small Business owners in utilizing the
correct methods of starting and running a business
· Taught and Assisted clients in setting up and executing
Marketing Plans
Global Marketing Alliance 2008 – 2009
Business Operations and Marketing Instructor
· Responsible for instructing clients on the best methods for
business operations and marketing
· Updated and Improved the existing client curriculum
· Programmed Marketing and Research Tools to work with eBay,
Amazon, and other internet auction sites
PostalAnnex+ #5002 2005 – 2008
Marketing Director
· Oversaw all aspects of the Marketing and Sales departments
· Started and maintained relationships with various real estate
companies, including Re-Max, Century 21, Exit, as well as
several local independent locations
· Introduced rewards and incentive programs, which increased
customer base by 1%
Was able to see a year-to-year revenue increase of between 10% -
20% through email marketing, direct sales, wholesale printing
partnerships, banners, and community activities.
SKILLS/ CERTIFICATIONS
Google AdWords Certified Professional
Eagle Scout
Microsoft Office 2003/2007
OpenOffice.org 3.0
HTML/ PHP/ MYSQL

This is the republican that is selling you your coaching. http://www.myspace.com/321734272/blog

Your so far off its not even funny... Cut and paste an audio tape??? Its a recorded compliance and if its such a scam why would this industry be arouund for 15 years?? The attprney General would have clsoed the doors a long time ago. you people have nothing better to do but blame other people when something in your life doesn't work out. Its coaching to teach you how to make money online. They don't promise you your going to make millions and you egt out of what what you put in.... It's called dudilligence.....If you want real facts on this industry then do some REAL research!!! It's not hard

Here are a few more:

Mad Cow Productions, LLC
Communication Corporation
Universal Consulting
Apply Knowledge

"The training that I received from my Level11 Mentoring coaches was top
quality professional! I learned a lot of information, strategies and insider
secrets that I probably would have never learned from other SEO programs. I
would recommend Level11 Mentoring to anyone who is serious about succeeding
in Internet marketing. Thank you Level11!

Sincerely,
Hope Henley
GanodermaGoldmine.com"

These same folks are definitely operating in Boise at present, going under the name of Millenium Marketing Group, and this is the site that comes up when conducting a Google Search for them in Boise: http://www.coachingbydiverse.com/home

I totally sympathize with "Dad" who posted about his son's paycheck from them bouncing.  My daughter's worked for them for a month & they were late on the first pay period, but eventually paid, then they fell behind by 3 weeks and "paid" their employees yesterday with hot checks.

It would appear that they are continuing to run craigslist ads for reps despite being unable to pay the employees they currently have.  Meanwhile apparently their merchant account has been frozen, their principal bank account has insufficient funds, and they can't even process payroll through QuickBooks Payroll because the credit card number used to pay for Intuit assisted payroll is no good any longer.

I might suggest that if you are owed money for goods, services, or bad checks from this "company" that you consider filing with the Idaho Dept. of Labor if you're an employee, the Boise police if they kited a bad check off on you, or the Idaho Attorney General's office if you're a consumer and they have failed to process your refund, or an affiliate that sent leads to them who they have failed to compensate.

Do it before they can BK the current LLC, change office locations and come right back up under a new LLC name to do the same thing all over again.

Oh, and to the idiot who keeps posting the definition of "hate speech" in this thread- my comments are not at all directed at anyone for their religious affiliation, color, race, or creed so spare us your nonsense. Also, if you want to threaten folks with having your attorney come after them, then bring it on. You can't even pay your Hostgator account so I know you sure as heck can't afford an attorney.

Was the Italian name Vince Scarpuchi?  That is Aaron's alias he goes by sometimes when he is hiding from people...

Really?

These comments say how rude people were being treated. How people got scammed with their credit cards, how they were harrassed. This is IGNORANCE to you?

Please comment on all the people that have filed complaints against you and you company.

You are a scammer and you know it.

...

Hey Arron that was a nice little novel you wrote. Why don't you take the time you put in to that, to stop smoking pot, and take all the money you think you have and start paying people you stole from.

Most recently, Millennium Marketing Group. Which was the stupidest thing ever because there is already a different company by that name that is dominating on the online complaint forums. They should have done their research, I'm sure that they lost some business having the same name as a company that is already on the scam websites.

***To Outsider -

Chris' story sounds exactly like mine. I was hired and worked for them for 6 months (IN 2011). The same thing is still going on. I was that "guy" in 2011 that went in and tried to clean up their coaching dept.

When BOTH of my paychecks bounced in April 2011, I had just about enough. I was laid off the first week in May 2011. I was really pissed off!! But I soon got over it and chalked it up to a learning experiences.

I visit these websites every once in a while to see if they are still up to the same old "6 Month cycle" that they go through. It is mostly just out of curiousity as well. I won't take legal action. I don't lie about my employment there. I don't have a reason to. I feel the need and responsibility to educate others about my situation so hopefully others don't end up in the same situation that I did.

I was put on "salary" at $33,000 per year with a lot of empty promises about being bumped up to $75k - $85k within a year. And with the amount of hours that I worked, I estimated that I was earning less than $15 per hour. I was doing a lot for that company with the goal of being able to eventually make it to $100k per year. I believed that I would be able to make a difference. I took some initiative to help the company but when I wasn't getting my paycheck. My morale and motivation went downhill very quickly!

I was never offered any benefits like health insurance.

In the 6 months that I worked their, 4 paychecks bounced and 2 paychecks were at least a week late.

My opinion is that this is a company to avoid at all costs. However, most likely, they have a new business name now. Last I heard, it was Millennium Marketing Group.

P.S. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say that this 'outsider (z)' is really an "insider".

This is funny as sh## Aaron Christner and Ryan how does it feel it looks like karma is following you. That is if you believe in that kind of stuff or you could view it as though you have just scammed and screwed so many people that they are no longer willing to forgive and forget!! HAHA Keep posting guys lets shut their doors forever.

it doesnt matter he still wont pay his employees him and ryan dont care they say well you didnt work for the black box firm you worked for accomplished learing group so its not our prob they screwed a sectary out of 1800 dollars cuz they said she worked for a different entity

Here are some updated numbers on Aaron Christner. He is going by the name Vince Scarpuzzi this week.

Current address:

6135 South Stratler, Suite A
Murray, UT 84123
888-282-7773
866-476-8473

Cel Phone: [removed]


Their current companies are:

Black Box Firm
Keeping-It-Fresh.com

Old Companies:

Diverse Marketing
Millennium Marketing Group
Cyber Innovations
Mad Cow Productions
Level11 Mentoring

I am so tired of looking around the internet and seeing all these complaints against us. They never call us and we would be able to help them. We are here to help, call and ask for me. It is not true I scream at people on the phone- I want to help. As long as you are not a lazy [***] and want to work you will make money.

Too many lazy people think the money just rolls in, no it does not. You have to work and you have to get the next level of coaching. You will need that. And our blogging software- you need to buy that especially if you are lazy! And then we can sell you a coaching system for the blogging software. Don't worry if you cant afford it we will finance it for you!!! See we are here to help you!

As for that site at http://blackboxfirmscam.wordpress.com/ that is all a lie. That is all from an ex-employee that has been following us around for years who is a liar and in jail. Or maybe it is another employee who was our partner and then he was no good for us anymore and we got rid of him. Or it is a woman who worked for us. Or another woman that worked for us. Whoever it is written by it is all lies and fraud!!! I was only caught with 1/8th of an ounce of pot... and my DUI bust was years ago... so it is all lies, none of it true. All those court cases they list and show that we lost, well, yes, we lost, but that was because the state of Utah is out to get us. They are liars too.

So this is all false and lies if you know me you know I pay well and am good to all my employees except the lazy ones who should be fired and so we fired them.

I do not do drugs and will take a drug test every day. People who say I smoke pot every day are all liars and I defy them to prove it because they cannot!!!

I wish these liars would all leave us alone and let us run our business. It is a good business and is here to help people. That is all we want to do, help people!!!

I have found this, too, associated with Black Box Firm and Aaron Christner. They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you shouolod not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner! Along the lines of trying to scam women (Aaron is not sexist, he will steal anyones money!), they ahve also set up another female oriented "blog" site... Sohpie's Blog. This is supposed to be by Sophie Vaughn. Just one look and you KNOW this site is a scam!

Also they are Express Internet Academy, and have set up a site there. That address is 138 East 12300 S Ste 183, Draper UT, 84020, which is just south of the Stratler Street address.

Is Aaron Christner also using the name Riley "Hutch" Hutchinson? I am pretty sure that is a scam... it may be the same guy. It has the same statler address as Accomplish Learning. It may also be using the name Bruce Kelly... they are all the same as the black box firm.

They have a site called, Abbey's Blog... and it is a money making scam site. This was @Abbeycoach on twitter, but the account was suspended...  If it is associated with Christner and Jensen, you know you should not go near it! So Abbey Fredrickson is just another scam name made up by Aaron Christner!

They run an similar blog called Sophies Blog supposedly by Sophie Vaughn. Sophie Vaughn is a scam, too. Sophie is Aaron, not some single mom. All these names for one guy, what does he hide from????

Both these sites are NOT to scam you, at least not directly. Rather, they want to get your NAME and EMAIL. These sites sell you something cheap for very little money. But in a month or two, Aaron and Ryan use your email or phone to contact you from Accomplish Learning or Black Box Firm.... and that is when their scam really begins. This is just the honey pot...

you are full of crap I worked for him I know he is a SCAMER PIG PRICK all of you guys saying other wiser aree full of SHI!! stick it

LOL only thing he's qualfied for