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Hello to everybody
I´m from Germany and my story seems to be written by a few others before in this forum.
When they contacted me in I think it started allready in February LVS stock was at 12Dollars. I didnt invest, but kept tracking LVS. It went up and when they contacted me again, which I didnt expect, I let me persuade to buy. Searched through the net but found nothing negative about DIS.
Now the same, perhaps a little bit of greed and a little bit of been talked into it, selling LVS and investing more money to buy GHMN. I received to order confirmation and should transfer the money until Friday. But I got cold feet and with the orderchange of the LVS I now have the name of the company they changed it to. With this company I looked into the net again. And Boy, am I not pleased with what I read now. Ok I should have guessed from the beginning.
Peter now wants to press me into transfering the money, because I allready have the order confirmation. He is talking of layers and regress. Is his demad legal and can he push it through?
Luckily it was "only" 5000.-Eur.

Regards, Chaos

Hi to all,

Some more news on this: Peter is definitely lieing as to some people he says that GHMN is sold at 1,5€ and to others he said it would be sold at 3,25€.

I don't think they can legally sue us, as what they are doing is not legal, and as far as I know, we haven't signed for something. They claim that they are doing transfers on our names, and that everything has been done successfully, but how can they do that before they receive any payments?

Yesterday they said that they successfully sold my LVS shares for 36$ - how can that be? There is no sign of any sell of this level on any financial internet website!

I am for sure NOT going to transfer a single euro to them. I've asked them to transfer first money on my account, but that is 'impossible'.

Regards,
Pat

Hi Chaos and all
Can you please tell us of the name ...you quoted  "I received to order confirmation and should transfer the money until Friday. But I got cold feet and with the orderchange of the LVS I now have the name of the company they changed it to. With this company I looked into the net again. And Boy, am I not pleased with what I read now."

Thanks Nick

Hi Nick,

I qouted GHMN for 1.-Dollar and should cash out for 1,50 end of July. The names are the usual ones. Peter Marsh, Tom Daniels, Sofia...
I tried to find GHMN on the Live ticker for stocks. Other than LVS there is no record. I think the statemen that they are not listed is correct.
Searching through the net it seems there was a DIS back in 1996 with some entries and all other articels are dating from ca. a year ago. A new company with an old name?
Wonder how long it will take the german institue to give out a warning as the danisch allready have.
Regards,
Chaos

Hi Chaos & everybody else !

I was also threatened by DIS that they would make me liable of not transfering the money after I received the Order Confirmation for GHMN. I talked to my lawyer + national Financial Securities Agency's lawyer -> there are absolutely no chances for DIS to press any charges. My lawyer even ordered me NOT to transfer the money for the GHMN...
and I was even advised to press charges against them due to my "pre-investment" on LVS.

In your shoes 2Chaos" or anybody who is being threatened - don't listen to that crap, they're very good on their talks and can be persuasive. Talk to your local Financial Officials or any lawyer - you'll be calmed down...at least I was.

Brad

Hi Brad,
Peter just came back to me on the phone to push me. I think, I´ll write him that I see the money I´ve invested so far is gone down the drain and that DIS is at the warming list of Financial Supervisory Authorities. If they come with a lawyer I think this could even be the possibilitie to get back to them, to press charges from the whole of the deceived customers.
Ok, wasn´t that much money, 5000.-Eur, but it was unnecessary. Sadly the warning from the dansk Financial Authority came out on 3rd of March. My investigations on DIS were done in beginning of February.
Martin

Hi all new people here!
The questions you ask here have been cleared weeks before...............
Haven't you read the first two sites!?
We have not to discuss about things which are clear facts since the
beginning of this site - we have to find ways to fight them!!!!!
I can not understand that somebody asks for if it is fraud or not here
on the 3rd site ...............

Hi Chaos
Are you sure they quoted you 1 GHMN share for 1 US Dollar? My price was 1 GHMN share = 1 Euro!
Quite a price difference! Please give us a feed back, because that would be some more fraud evidence!
Regards Nick

Hi Hunter57,

We did read all the pages on this forum, but the more clarity we can get on this, the better it will be for any new people on this site: we all had something common in the very beginning: we trusted those guys and we did buy LVS shares for about 5000€ - then they pushed us for more investments (approx 25000€) and still many people went along in this also (and even with more money as I have found out). As you can agree: those guys are very, very convincing.

But thanks to this forum, a number of people started already to stop transferring any further money to them. And this is the ONLY way to fight against them: keep on communicating on this forum and highlighting any lies as much as possible, so that anyone new they contact can read all this true info about these fraudeurs on this forum and decide to stop even with buying the initial package of LVS shares.

Nothing will stop these guys, and as soon as this Dai-Ichi-Securities cover is completely unveiled, they will start under a new name, and do it all over again, exactly in the same way. I have been looking into websites from previous scams a few years ago and found some very similar build websites as the one from Dai-Ichi. So I already think this is definitely not there first one.

It will be very difficult to find them - and it will even be much more difficult to get any money back from them (I think the only way is to torture them ;-) but there must be somewhere a leak in the legal system of stocks, where someone is forwarding names and contactdetails of small investors, which those frauds pick up and start to work on. I think it is related to stocks in America and I have bought early this year some stocks from Citigroup and AIG. Perhaps if we all have this in common, we can continue this investigation from that point of view.

I can understand that you are angry to them (I am as well) and we all want to fight against them, but legally there is nothing we can do, and we will probably never see any of our money back. That's a reality we all have to live with.

So this is a call to anyone on this forum: keep on sharing information and hold this site alive. It is very usefull for new potential 'victims' of this gang.

Kind regards and looking forward to read much more about this,
Pat

Hi Nick58,
sorry my mistake, mixed up Dollar with Eur.
At my mail to Peter yesterday saying I wont pay any more money, I got no responce. And I guess I never will.
As far as I have looked through the internet, these activities from DIS dont reach back very long. To me it looks like they started under this name this kind of business end of last year. Or am I mistaken?
I dont think I will see my money again, but if someone sees a chance to get them I would be more than willing to help. My lawyer sees no chance. Especially because the money was transfered over the banks of Mauritus.
I think, I will start an email chain within our company to warn everybody. Not much, but if it keeps just one from loosing money to this pack it´s worth it.
Regards,
Chaos

I am absolutely shocked, since I only found this site today, June 21, after having spent already 62,000 Euros on obviously worseless GHMN. How stupid of me. I did some googling before as this became more suspicious to me each time they asked for more money, but all I had found so far looked like DIS is a true investment firm running a solid business. After reading all this I do not think we have to wait for Kalisikaran only to let us know that he did not receive the promised cashout on June 22. I am ruined. Not only that have lost all that money, but I had borrowed money for the last additional investment, which was required to "complete" the deal according to Peter Marsh. The last thing he told me is that there are 25 clients, of which one holding 600,0000 (!) shares dropped out (how can that be) and now the remaining 24 clients have to take over additonal 25,000 GMSN shares, otherwise the "buyer" would not release the "money that is already parked at escrow". Does this story sound familiar for anybody here? Is there any way for us to get our moneys back? I am lost, don't knoow what to do now.
Regards,
iopener

Welcome to the club, iopener! This is the typical story, similar to mine.  I can only advise you to report this to your local police and/or financial authority. You have to assume the money is lost and due to the international nature of this kind of crime there will be very limited chances to retrieve anything.
if you need more info, contact me on: wilvanbil103@yahoo.com

Hi Chaos,
I am also from Germany, and have been betrayed exactly the same way, but much more money, unfortunately. I will imediately stop any additional investments they ask of me, I do not fear legal action from them, since what they do is all illegal. I am concerned  about my invested money. Have you contacted a lawyer already. Is there anything we can do? I do not know what to do, I am lost. Any help?

Hi iopener,
I´m going to see my lawyer tomorrow. I´m going to take all the writen stuff with me and as soon as I´m back online I will post a reply on how he is seeing the situalion and how to proceed.
By the way. Hasn´t anybody else got a note from his lawyer where you have a court decision to go on with?
Dont loose hope
Chaos

hi,

Ive not been involved with these scamers but this story is bad, I take it you have tried to trace these people, the way I see it that is the only way to stop them, to physically get a hold of them.

Domain Name: guizhoumining.com.cn
ROID: 20091127s10011s04183498-cn
Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited

Registrant Name: Bart Wong

Administrative Email: Email Masking Image@guizhoumining.com.cn
Sponsoring Registrar: GoDaddy.com, Inc.
Name Server:ns1.guizhoumining.com.cn
Name Server:ns2.guizhoumining.com.cn
Registration Date: 2009-11-27 18:52
Expiration Date: 2011-11-27 18:52

Thats the domain ownership info, GoDaddy hosted....don't know of any rep companies that would use them tbh, also the domain name was only bought for 2 years, most serious companies would buy for 11 years at a time.

There website has no links into it from the web, thats also not a good sign.
GoDaddy might help you with the real names behind the registration of the domains if you inform them of the scam, maybe get your local law enforcment to contact them.

For the money you have lost between you im sure you could, how do I say..... pay for them to get there just rewards.

Domain Name: dai-ichi-securities.com

Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Status: clientDeleteProhibited, clientRenewProhibited, clientTransferProhibited, clientUpdateProhibited

Expiration Date: 2011-11-02
Creation Date: 2009-11-02
Last Update Date: 2009-11-04

Name Servers:
   ns1.dai-ichi-securities.com
   ns2.dai-ichi-securities.com
See dai-ichi-securities.com DNS Records

Hosts?: ns1.dai-ichi-securities.com, ns2.dai-ichi-securities.com

Also GoDaddy hmmm...

All,
shouldn't we better stop communication on this public platform and switch to something like LinkedIn (closed group)? Maybe there is a chance to find these guys before they find this discussion here.

http://www.wertpapier-forum.de/topic/32246-ka ... ge-per-telefon/

an other german blog

I got a call and did invest indeed lot of money

The guy says they are from Dai Ichi Securities, names David Lucas ( which name you find on web as Dai Ichi expert) and the clerk department that follows the money receipt

Is it indeed fraud? What can we do to try to recover money?

Hello everybody,

what do you think what happened to my money? Today my broker called me and told me a sifi story about some difficulties. The bank involved in the deal had difficulties.The complete dai ichi team worked the last weeks to find a solution. They found another bank (for heaven´s sake) that will join in the deal. But the bank won´t do that for nothing. So I should pay another 15.000,- € to get out of the deal. That means I would hold more shares and would get more money at the end (July 2010).
We have had a long and angry discussion. But at the and I did not spend another 15.000,- €.
So i am not a preferred customer anymore and some "juniorbroker" will contakt me in the future to let me know about the performing of my GHMN shares (wich I can not sale because ....; another sifi story).
That is it. The money is gone. No chance to get it back on my account.
If I read in July about a new company on the stock market called "guizhou mining" ...
What about the idea to put the rest of our money together and pay for a hitman ... :)
At the moment i really like this idea.

CU