01204388189

Very entertaining stuff.  Try and throw as much mud around as possible and hope some sticks.

How do companies work on no win no fee?  Easy, we look for errors in the rating list, and seek instructions from those ones, rather than doing what cowboys do and target either absolutely anyone, or ones where there is no chance of getting a reduction and charging up front, then coming up with some BS afterwards "The Valuation Officer has investigate the case and unfortunately has decided that the RV cannot be reduced".  What a surprise!!

The thing is, we can see what you do, we can prove it, and we are taking action against you.  We know that cowboys will NEVER take a client to court for non payment for fear of being completely exposed by a reputable expert.

"The only way they can cover the costs of even trying to do the work is by charging the people for whom they are successive large fees and every year of the savings"

Do you mean successful??

stay away from this people no matter what they say.
professional scammers , and do not pay a penny even if you sign electronic email , they can not do nothing to you apart from bullying

They took 70£ from my card and telling we gone reduce your bussiness rate and save you thousand of pounds and will take 770£ when the VAO reduce my rate...got in contact with the valuation office and they have explained to me anyone or myself can put an appeal and they will send me and acknowledgement letter in any case why these scammers getting 770£ for and acknowledgementioned letter they need to be in prison
Please can someone do anything about it
They call  themselves now The Clements Agency Groups
1st floor Front Connaught House
112-120 High Road Loughton
IG10 4HJ
TEL NUM IS 02085084219

I had the same problem, used my card for a friend to pay initial money £140. Told them this was a one off and nexr invoice should be made to him. Informed Barclaycard not to allow these people to take any money from my card. Was assured a marker had been placed on my account. Next thing Barclaycard have paid £700 to the Clements Agency. When i dispute this the money is returned to my account whilst they chase up the reclaim from TCA. The TCA send barclaycard a letter which reports to say i agreed to pay (but doesn't actually) and asked Barclaycard to support them against my 'fraudulent claim' which they did and recharged me the £700. I queried this with them and was told unless the money was part of a standing order or direct debit they could not stop them from taking the money but would pursue recovery in the event of it being taken. As i have already said they agreed with the CA and I lost, but was given a £25 good will payment. Therefore I don't hols out much luck with your claim from the bank. (original letter 11 Aug 2015 with 16 replies, how can I get to see the replies?)

So the Clements agency are trying to scam us, they filled an appeal against rates without our knowledge and then send a bill saying they were acting under our instructions, then it goes further and they have the balls to take it to court, how people like this can exist I don't know, they need to be sent back under what ever rock they crawled out from under...

The Clements Agency Group
1st floor Front Connaught House
112-120 High Road Loughton
IG10 4HJ
02085084219

I was telephoned regarding a reduction in my business rates from a company called Clements Agency Group. They requested over £600 for the pleasure which i paid.
They sent me certain pieces of paperwork and i checked the Valuation Office and seen an appeal had been raised.
I received no more letters and have tried to call Clements and it said on answerphone all our agents are busy i then tried many more times with the same response
i called the voa tribunal and they said that they think that Clements had gone into liquidation and wanted to know if anyone knows if they have gone and if anyone else has heard of or had a problem with this company.

Not sure if they have stopped trading but they were formally doing business as Hammer Properties. By the looks of it they have started a new company called Comprehensive Business Solutions LTD, they have more then likely done this to avoid legal issues with people such as yourself. I have included links to the Companies House website below.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07768151
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/09455674
Both companies have the same director, Susan Leslie (Associcated with Hammer Properties) and are both registered to the same address 395 Hoe Street, Walthamstow, London, E17 9AP. The last information I got Clements were operating out of an office in Loughton, Essex. The Clements Agency Group
1st floor Front Connaught House
112-120 High Road Loughton
IG10 4HJ
02085084219.
I also believe Hammer Properties, The Clements Agency Group and Comprehensive Business Solutions LTD are associated with Huntcrown Ltd and Rivercrown Ltd

This is the telephone number for a company called Duncan regents who are no longer around....

Let us not forget about them, or the lies they told people, or the money they scammed from businesses. May they rot in hell.

These last few posts are jargon that Gary Davies who the original post is about has placed on here to try to divert you all from what the original post is about. Which is him and his family having a past off ripping people off and stealing your money. And now thinking he's sitting pretty under the 'utilty bill helpline' which now acts as a kind off trading standards helpline to all the clients he has conned out of 'millions'.  All he's doing is using his database off people who he's conned with his other companies to now recover money for knowing full well he has conned them already as he ans his family did the conning and charging them a commission for showing them how he can get their money back by their credit card company by signing a quick form.
Not a bad scam but some of us aren't behind the door Mr Davies
My advice is stay clear and report to trading standards immediately as they already have started to build a case on this family of con artists.
If you have been contacted or used the services off utilty bill helpline and have it's regarding claiming money back from previous companies who have done business rates appeals for you then you need to contact trading standards immediately as this will be them who have conned you before.

Important read these links when dealing with utilty bill helpline. All these are their companies. Are you a victim ?

https://www.tellows.co.uk/num/01204385309

Ok they won't copy and paste and let people open the link on here. So I will take my time to copy every what's on other forums about their past companies onto here. Keep posted.

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4 Theo reported IDC ltd with the number 01204385309 as Cost trap
Sep 6, 2012 1:33:42 PM
Rates appeal consultants. Promise to reduce rates and seem very genuine, they are slick. Go to the valuation office agency and appeal yourself it's free. This company will charge u for doing very little and chances are your rates will stay the same or worse increase! Be careful out there!
This is a con !!

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4 Theo reported IDC ltd with the number 01204385309 as Cost trap
Sep 6, 2012 1:33:42 PM
Rates appeal consultants. Promise to reduce rates and seem very genuine, they are slick. Go to the valuation office agency and appeal yourself it's free. This company will charge u for doing very little and chances are your rates will stay the same or worse increase! Be careful out there!
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lizzie Roberts replied 2014-02-03 16:33:56
I have just received a letter from them informing me that they are in "liquidation". I feel robbed.
anon replied 2014-02-06 12:33:01
Kept hassling me since november for reduction in rates, agreed a partial payment in Dec and yesterday received an email letter to say they are in liquidation. They will obviously pop up again in another name and do the same so future buyers beware
MAM replied 2014-03-19 14:02:07
PAID THEM TO HAVE RATES REDUCED UNSUCCESSFUL JUST TRIED TO CALL NO ONE THERE. TERRIBLE BUSINESS PRACTICE I GIVE UP .

T & J Howard replied 2013-12-10 22:48:00
We have paid £450 for your company to have our rates reviewed We have not heard anything since Please could you advise if you intend to keep our funds for no service
Mrs J Kaur replied 2016-09-18 18:29:17
Total scam, I paid them £500 as they reviewed my case and promised me that I was due a refund in my business rates but it was all just a scam, my business was suffering anyway and they just made it worse, I was forced to close down because of people like this!

Paid ID Consultants Ltd £450, after having been called advising that I was entitled to rate rebate from 2010 was dubious about this Company (gut feeling) but after a few conversation they managed to convince me otherwise and I parted with the monies. BIG MISTAKE - take monies and then leave you high and dry!!!! They think they have had the last laugh, but they haven't, when I have finished with them they are going to wish they had never met me!!!!

please remember that these serious complaints that are over the web on different forums are a 'selection' of complaints to show the links between all the companies that were set up by the 'Davies' family to rip people off on their business rates that they have run down to the ground and got rid off after extracting millions with their sharp con and now sit there behind the 'utilty bill helpline' to offer refunds to the very clients they originally targeted to rip off and con. This is a full on conspiracy to defraud the public in every way. I will keep sending you samples off their complaints and all from the companies they set up. So if you have been contacted by the 'utilty bill helpline' in relation to them getting you a refund from one off these business rates companies who they will say ripped you off and acted illegally with their actions , which they know better than anyone as it was those who are now behind the 'utilty bill helpline' that did it.
This is a serious fraud that needs to be reported to the police and trading standards to show that all these companies are linked and have all been set up with one purpose and one purpose only and that's to defraud you. And the 'utilty bill helpline' is now using its own database off its past criminalities of fraud , deception, misrepresentation to extract more money out of their past victims once again by now claiming to be the good guys.
Open your eyes everyone and let's bring this family to account and in front of the legal system !

Jul 17, 2013 11:02:11 AM
Big fraud company. needs to be reported.
I was promised to get reduction in rates aand kept calling me to pay for work carried out to reduce my rates. I thought probably were genuine and paid £400. after few days got letter,says appeal has been unsuccessfull. I wish i had seen the reviews. This company needs to be reported to fraus office.