01427858331

wats up i hate your guts

To all Readers we do answer and reply to posts on this thread as well as all e-mails sent to wewillgivefreeadvice@hotmail.co.uk regardless of the age of this thread.

The aforementioned companies are still of grave concern (no pun intended), therefore, Protection the Elderly and Vulnerable will continue.

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KW.

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JohnnyKush93 - 6 Jul 2012

I actually just got fired from this company today...I have been working there since 28th of February this year. The manager, Matthew...dont ask me his last name because it was different all the time...(Appleby, Appleyard, Jones) gave us all photocopies of the phonebook to call, so we would call the number, and slash it out with a pen after we had done, then if we had someone interested we would take down their details and pass them to Matt who would then book an appointment with that client in hopes the consultant would sell them a legal document (If he did then we got a £25 bonus, which I always thought was stupid as the products actually sold for around £2000.) But after that I cant give you any more information because I dont know if these elderly people were being robbed of money, even though it was something I had discussed with my colleagues and they also hoped that wasnt the case as everyone who I worked with was just the same as me, just trying to pay rent, most had children to support also like me. I hated working there, Matthew treat us all like crap, im talking bouncing cheques, no P60, payslips all over the place, just trickles of payslips, and he also quite frequently verbally abused staff thinking we would laugh and be impressed. I have been in touch with ACAS, Trading Standards and HMRC and they are looking into the company for me. So, just posted this to confirm from first hand experience that I think its a scam but also to say, dont hate the people working there who are calling you, they are just doing their jobs, i know its hard because you forget they are just people like everyone else and think WHY THE HELL ARE YOU CALLING ME?! But like i said, we all need to pay rent, support children and all the other stuff, and around Newark area there is NO Jobs. I would say at least everyone there is working and not signing on but...I just noticed on my payslip today, in 6 months of working there, i didnt pay a penny of N.I. Contributions, the N.I. Number on my payslip is not even close to mine so...TAX EVAISON. I hope Matthew, and the bloke who owns it (Graham also known as Joseph Sutcliffe or something) burn in hell, and they take their piece of s**t company with them. Want any more info? Post back and il post a bigger one, just short of time right now.

Thanks, hope this is useful.

JACK DRYDEN...

Thats right Matthew, I know you`l be reading this, scumbag.
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JohnnyKush93 replies to JohnnyKush93 - 6 Jul 2012

Just realised, there was a part on there that looked really bad...I havnt paid any N.I. Contributions, but in contacting HMRC iv realised that and im paying it back myself. So hey, look at that? With this job, you pay money instead of earn it...Nice.
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Rodger Sant replies to K W - 26 Jun 2012

Thanks for your information my mother who lives in Edgbaston Birmingham Has had a call from them yesterday making arrangements for a rep to call on Wednesday . Thanks goodness that I saw your report on line and have now cancelled this appoinment. Hope other people see this so they do not get caught. The other problem is how do we stop these people from trading and targetting old aged people??. onec again thanks for the info


Regards

Rodger Sant
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JonnyKush93 Thankyou for your comments. All additions are appreciated. Please visit our other forum for more information about the people behind the aforementioned companies: https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/01427858331

We have a few questions we would like to ask, please feel free to e-mail us at wewillgivefreeadvice@hotmail.co.uk.

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Hi, I have just been cold called by Express Law Doncaster saying that they are doing a promotion in my area (Hull) and there is new government regulations coming into force that entitles care homes to make you sell your home if you have to go into care. I have arranged for a representative to call to my home but after reading the posts on this site I would like to cancel, how can I stop this man calling?

'SP' Thankyou for your comment. We would suggest that you call Express Law of Doncaster and say that you do not want the arranged visit from their representative to go ahead and therefore you wish to cancel, that should be the end of it.

However if you do not get this response; call the Police and Trading Standards.

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KW

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JohnnyKush93 - 13 Jul 2012

I am just writing to detract what i put on a previously. I was fired due to attendance issues and i was  incorrect on the payment of tax as i worked 16 hours. I would also like to say Matt is not a Scum Bag!
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JohnnyKush93 - 13 Jul 2012

Disregard my last message. Matthew has been calling me all day today asking me if i had removed my comment on here about him and the company. He basically said to me if i didnt remove the comment he wouldnt give me my 2 weeks in hand money. He was saying how hes done me favors and all this. But stand by what I said. So i went to work and the woman he leaves behind the desk while he goes out of the office was there (not mentioning any names, i have a lot of respect for her and she is just as innocent as everyone else) and she typed it out for me. So here I am now, iv got my wage and just letting all you good people on here know, i didnt mean any of that last comment. No one blackmails me!
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I heard from someone that he was a robbing [***].

Half of this has nothing to do with Express Law, we are a good company trying to help people.!

Just to let you know that Express Law has targeted our local Seniors forum (of which I am a committee member), arranging with our chairman for a talk by Mick Poucher. Unfortunately for them my 93 year old father was ripped off to the tune of £2000 by their precursors, Minster Legal Services, two years ago and even though I managed to get to talk with David Hodgson and his sidekick Nisha Verma, he has never seen a penny of it since.Knowing Express Law operated in a similar manner I rang Jan Sarson (Direct line:01302 260434) to cancel the appoint today as I could not be held responsible for my actions if any of Express Law's representatives came to try to take our members for a ride. Incidentally they claim to give 1% of the net value of orders taken to the group or a charity, saying they have donated sums ranging from £80 to £300 recently. If true, a simple bit of Maths shows how much they are making from all this!

Bkw Thankyou for your comment: "Half of this has nothing to do with Express Law, we are a good company trying to help people."

We will leave it for the public to make their own decisions after we highlight information on this thread which we might add is in the public domain already.

Just a small piece from Express laws Website: http://expresslawripoff.co.uk/welcome/
"Rip-off companies and con-men can flourish in what is sadly an unregulated industry;and at Express Law in Doncaster we are proud to be among those leading the call for industry standards and regulations to be introduced so that “cowboy” companies can no longer trade and blacken the good names of those of us shriving to offer the highest possible standards of service.

Why was Express Law's membership revoked from the Society Of Will Writers?

"At Express Law Ltd of Armthorpe, Doncaster we CRB (Police background check) all our new legal consultants before their exclusive & extensive training courses and exams on joining our company."

Unfortunately, a Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) doe's not show previous business practices of Directors or Consultants.

Director Martin Smith of Express Law is a former Director of several Will Writing firms that have Dissolved or gone into Compulsory Liquidation and he's also been heavily involved with Gerald Malcolm Barton.
(http://www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/money-opinion ... cam-axed-282819). Furthermore, Martin was involved with scamming millions from Franchisees whilst operating with NLS Sheffield.

Feel free to search Martin Dennis Smith and Andrew Young on Jordans Watch (or any other similar Director Search) and ask yourself why they use several DOB's and different names.

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KW

Dougal Thankyou for your comment, all additions are appreciated. We are sorry to hear that your Father was scammed by MLS, but it is reassuring for others within your local Seniors forum that you were vigilant and aware of this situation.

Minster Legal Services was run by the Directors of Express Law, Martin Smith and Andrew Young, they were assisted by office Supervisor Alana Benson now the companies Office Manager.

Thank you for highlighting the amount of money made from this situation. When you consider who needs paying from the sale of these products ie:
*The telecan staff - set wage +  5% of their sale + bonuses,
*Legal/admin staff - set wage,
*Consultants - 25% of their sale,
*Supervisors - set wage +  3% of every sale that their team generates,
*Office Managers - set wage +  5% of every sale and not forgetting
*The Directors - 50% of every sale.

It begs the question how the client gets what they have paid for.

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KW

Christine
You need to be careful about these sorts of claims.
If you have evidence to show these to be true then fair enough.
I think it unrealistic that the directors get half of every sale and if you are making this sort of claim without it being based on fact, then you are leaving yourself open to a letter from lawyers.
Better to rely on what you know to be true.  The public are more likely to believe the rest of what you say if you restrain yourself from the wilder claims.

To all Readers please be reminded of this scam and beware as companies alike are still operating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txwi9Y3JcA8&feature=plcp

Thankyou for reading.

KW

I think you are doing an absolute STERLING job KW. I have been following this thread since its' beginning 2 years ago and the struggles you are going through to bring these crooks to book. I was gobsmacked to find that the guy that lives on Chapel avenue, Long Stratton was a near neighbour of mine from the old days!!! I even know which house it is! I don't think I knew the guy and he may not have been there in 2003 but I know where he is.

Carry on with your outstanding work KW, pity there are not more like you! You should be really proud of yourself :-)

Some [***] has used my email to write comments on this shity web site only found out the other day when had some one email me asking about gerrys where abouts! Don't have a clue and don't care really, as you you know me abc cos you call me chez how the hell do I stop this and delete comments off here?

To all Readers, please read the story below:

Kingsgate Legal and a question of trusts

By Andrew Penman on July 25, 2012 11:05 PM in Investments

First a warning, to Australia. Notorious jailbird and will-writing conman Gerald Barton is said to have moved Down Under.

Barton has routinely featured here for his habit of fleecing people who want wills drawn up, charging extra for "secure storage" and then dumping the vital paperwork in a barn or on the pavement.

Now he's gone to Oz, according to former ­associate Phil Hancock, himself a disqualified company director.

[Picture oh Philip Hancock]

Hancock (above) is now selling "asset protection trusts", which have become very fashionable as people worry about losing their home or life savings if they have to pay for long-term care in their old age.

Loads of new firms are flogging these trusts, prompting the North East Trading Standards ­Association and Law Society to publish a warning to consumers "following numerous complaints from members of the public in relation to an influx of firms promoting these products and using scare tactics and high pressure tactics to sell them."

Hancock, 66, is based at Kingsgate Legal Assistance in Bridlington, East Yorkshire, where, he claims: "We do it ­properly".

The sole director is his wife Esther Miller, who is by all accounts a rather good jazz singer but not someone you'd immediately associate with expert ­financial planning.

We weren't sure about Hancock's ­expertise either, since his main job has been running a golf course - until he got a seven-year ­directorship ban after the taxman complained about undeclared income of £455,000.

"What do I know about trusts?" he responded when we put this to him.

"I know a lot about them, so does my wife, what are you getting at?"

As for his work with Barton, he said this was short-lived, so short-lived he couldn't remember the name of the company where they worked. Was it National Legal Assistance? Minster Legal?

"No, it was the one after that, they changed from Minster to something else," he said.

"Gerry said can you come to Gainsborough to help out, so I went down and it all appeared to be very much above board."

In fact, it was just another fly-by-night Barton operation and Hancock is understandably keen to distance himself from it.

"Gerry's big problem was that he and other people like him cheated on people when they had seven days to cancel.

"We don't do that. Legally they have seven days to cancel and that's exactly what we allow.

"We've had a clean bill of health from the Office of Fair Trading, we're on a small scale and local."

So no cold calling then?

"Just occasionally, like three days a week."

One expert in this field is ­solicitor Gary Rycroft, who sits on the Law Society's Wills and Equity Committee, and we asked him to look at the Kingsgate website.

"It spells out the pros and not the cons of these trusts," he said.

"The first main con is that a local authority might be able to overturn the trust if you go into local council care and it can prove that you've deliberately given away your assets.

"The second is that you are setting up an arrangement which is difficult to go back on, unlike a will.

"They might say this during a ­discussion with clients, but it would be nice if they'd spelt it out beforehand."

Then there's the question of price - Hancock says that his £1,495 is "a lot cheaper than anybody else".

Gary's firm charges £500.
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2012 ... vestigations%29

Thankyou for Reading.

KW

Please read Daily Express today. We were conned by Minster Legal Services 2 years ago.We had the same problem,no one ever answered the phone.The "Office Manager" there was guess who, the same Andrew Young who is now running Express Law. When Minster Legal was closed down the blame was put on Gerry Barton but it looks like Express Law are working in the same way.Unfortunately we never got our money back.

ps. Funny that Express Law only gave this man his money back when the press became involved.

BEWARE!!!