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- Anonym replies to FredI'm not an insider either. Why are people so stupid as to believe everything they hear on the phone and buy rubbish without doing even a few perfunctory checks online? Why answer cold calls? This one has got SCAM stamped all over it. In all fairness they deserve to lose everything. If they spent as much time doing basic research as they do whining on here because they didn't just hang up they'd not have fallen for this scam. Mad isn't it?
- Fred replies to Anon-1| 23 repliesOn my last but one paragraph I said that Amber Crest had told me they are pursuing the Promissary contract not Christopher Andrews.
Christopher Andrews says he is head of accounts at Acropolis but that company does not exist.He is a sub contract broker with a few other people and will dissappear soon as all the shares are sold.
When I bought my extra shares I did not know Christopher Andrews was telling lies.I found out the was not telling the truth about a week ago and knew if I challenged him when he rang me he would just give me some more bull [***].The main thing is that I knew my money was safe.
The only reason I have decided to post on here is that there is so much on here that is not true that I decided to try to say what the actual pocition is.I do know Michael and I have access to the bosses of Amber Crest.The only thing that I am pissed off with is that it has taken so long for me to get my money and this has been out of MF control as it has been the Portuguese and Madierian govenments issues that have caused this.but will be worth it in the end.
Have you invested in the Hotel and Pearl Island. - Anon-1 replies to Fred| 21 repliesTo be clear I have invested in both,
In what form did the update that stated 'Amber Crest are pursuing the Promissary contract' come to you? not by phone I assume as there is no such person as Amber Crest.
You say Christopher Andrews is head of account Acropolis but now acting as a contract broker with a few other people, all of which will disappear as soon as all the shares are sold.
What shares would they be then? the Pearl Island ones, if so what are they asking for them now cos at 300 euro's you could still make money if they sold them at 410, however what business in their right mind having a buyer offering to pay 410 per share would sell existing shares at 300, therefore losng 110 euros per share, doesn't sound like very good businness sense to me
Like you I would love to think that some of the posts on this site are rubbish and conjecture, however the more contact I have, the less I trust the outcome.
I hope for your sake this works out for you, cos it sounds like you have made an almighty financial commitment here.
In reality of course even if he was or is the head of accounts Acropolis you would have to ask yourself what kind of person would lie holding that position, even if they thought they may be out of a job in a minute, of course TUPE would apply when one EU company gets taken over by another, for however short a time, so it would be in his interest to keep kis nose very clean, not go around lying to exisiting investors. - Anon replies to Anon-1I have to admire your confidence that your money is safe!!
- Anon replies to FredI have to admire your confidence that your money is safe!!
- Fred replies to Anon-1| 19 repliesThe information about pursuing the promissary contract came by E-mail from Amber Crest.
I did not say Christopher Andrews was head of accounts I said he was claiming to be head of accounts but in reality he was just a broker and I also did not say that WHEN all the shares have been sold, i said all been sold now so the brokers will leave and find other jobs.
So to make it clear Christopher Andrews was never head of accounts for Acropolis he was pretending to be.
The shares are the Pearl Island ones that were still available when Michael sold his shares to Amber Crest.I dont know how much Amber Crest paid for the shares from Michael if it was say 200 euros and they sold them fro 300 euros quickly that may be better for then instead of keeping them until the sale
Also to make it clear when Amber Crest bought Michaels shares in Acropolis only the name was changed so all our investor rights stayed the same so that is good for us.
If you are worried about your investment Michael has always said that any invester who would like to meet him in Madeira he would be happy to do that. - Anon-1 replies to Fred| 18 repliesWhat you said about then shares bought from Michael does have a ring of sense to it?
Going onto the email you have had in regard to pursuing the promissory contract, did it not also state that Pearl Island is now called Paragon Wealth, if so I am glad your confidence is high that only a company name changed and our investor rights stayed the same, cos whilst understanding that acropolis has now become amber crest, my share certificate states pearl island, so no idea what the need to change the name from pearl island to paragon wealth was about? Any ideas? - Fred replies to Anon-1| 17 repliesAs I said in my last post Acropolis name has changed to Amber Crest so investers rights are unchanged.Lynn Howard who bought Michaels shares is basically the same as us as she has shares in the company although she probably has a lot more shares.
On my mail from Amber Crest about the promissory contract it did say that Pearl Island LLC is now called Paragon Private Wealth LLC.
Pearl Island LLC was explained to me a couple of years ago but cannot remember exactly what it was.I think it was a holding company for the shares and was a legal tax loophole and also I recall something about when a buyer buys Pearl Island he pays a lot less tax has legally he has not bought the land but the shares and aparently this makes a bifg difference in the amount of tax he pays when the villa are sold.
I do not know why the name has changed to Paragon Private Wealth LLC. - Fred replies to Fred| 16 repliesI have jusr E-mailed Amber Crest the following message.
I recieved the following E-mail yesterday and noticed that Pearl Island LLC is now called Paragon Private Wealth LLC.
What does that mean for investors as my share certificate have printed on them Pearl Island LLC so will you be issuing new share cirtificates.
I will let you know what they say when they reply. - Anon-1 replies to Fred| 15 repliesThanks for doing that would be grateful if you keep me posted.
Having been through all the points today, I can see how I have jumped to some conclusions about something's that could be interpreted in a different way.
However my confidence is nothing like as high as yours, and just because you keep telling yourself its all Ok won't change the outcome, whatever that maybe.
One anomaly remain s for me, that is during all the recent conversations I have had with a Scottish Chris Andrews, he never once tried to sell me additional shares to boost my profit, so given that he was prepared to lie to boost his commission why did he not try and sell to me?
I realise yo wont know the answer but it is a puzzle. - Fred replies to Anon-1| 8 repliesChristopher Andrews first contacted me on 21/01/2013 and offered me shares at that time but I know that the shares they were all sold by two weeks after that.
When did Christopher Andrews start to talk to you and what did he talk about.
I spoke to Christopher Andrews about 12 times in total and was convinced he was Scottish,from his accent do you think he was genuinely Scottish.
I have it on good authority that the person pretending to be Christopher Andrews was infact a cockney born in London putting on a Scottish accent.I did not believe it but it is true. - Anon-1 replies to Fred| 5 repliesSo if as you say all the shares were sold two weeks after the 21/01/13, how did you buy some two weeks ago?
- Greg Davis replies to barclay scott| 2 repliesthe hotel project is a different company.
- Greg Davis replies to Fred| 1 replyI've had similar experiences, but before Chris Andrews appeared on the scene, and was offered more shares early March; I declined, wishing to contain my losses (if they are - it does seem so apart from one or two anomalies that make it sound OK).
Interesting that strong Scottish accent. Do you, or anyone reading this, have his phone number?
There is a site, Companies in UK, that lists Amber Crest with a Greenhithe address. - barclay scott replies to Greg DavisThey may be different companies,no hotel or villas nor anything has yet been consructed.
- Fred replies to Anon-1| 4 repliesIf you read my post you will see that I was offered the shares during my first phone call on 21/01/2013 and sent the money a few weeks later but they gave me the wrong bank details so they sent me the money back to my account and then I paid the money into the correct account that got there about two weeks ago.
- Fred replies to Greg DavisThe phone number I have used since 21/01/2013 to contact Christopher Andrews is 07895 993750
The Amber Crest company in the UK is nothing to do with the Amber Crest company in Madeira I believe. - barclay scott replies to Fred| 3 repliesIf you got any money back,well done but i cannot see these people returning a single penny,what are you hoping to purchase from them.?
- Fred replies to barclay scott| 2 repliesI do not understand what you are saying as I am not purchasing anything fro them.
Have you invested in the Hotel and Pearl Island.Well I think that I will get a good return on my investment in the next 3 to 6 months. - barclay scott replies to FredYou are pulling my plonker.
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