08700040044

Called the Pension Loans Com on 0870 004 0044 but something didn't quite sound right so posting this
warning. Your Pension is precious. Borrowing against it can be very dangerous. Many scams exist. Consult the FSA & HMRC before signing or agreeing to anything, more so if there is an offshore element.
https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/02081331548 for info on http://www.pension-loans.com and others.

Address on website
121-3 Courthill House
60 Water Lane
Wilmslow, Cheshire.
SK9 5AJ
Tel:  +44 (0) 870 004 0044

no company details given
no whois info to identify owner
unregulated site
what's to hide if it's above board?

SK9 5AJ =
Mail Boxes Etc
3 Courthill House
Water Lane
WILMSLOW
SK9 5AJ

SCAM http://www.pension-loans.com SCAM

Curious...

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/de-vere-monaco

DE VERE MONACO LIMITED
SUITE 3 COURTHILL HOUSE
60 WATER LANE
WILMSLOW
CHESHIRE
SK9 5AJ

( Active - Proposal to Strike off )
Annual Return Overdue (as of 30 Apr 2011)

MR JOSHUA BRIAN DE VERE Particulars Changed as director on 01 Dec 2009 (Document)
JOSHUA BRIAN DE VERE Appointed as director on 25 Nov 2008 (Document)
PETER VALAITIS Resigned as director on 13 Nov 2008 (Document)
Information last updated: 30 Apr 2011

anything to do with Spain?  https://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/02033842410

Don't think so, this group are definitely based in Cheshire.

pensionloans4u.co.uk is registered to the same address on whois and redirects to http://www.pension-loans.com

Registered by Elliott Laurence in Nov 10, which could be these guys I think: http://www.elliottlaurence.com

Address is also Cheshire, and they appear to be involved in insolvency solutions.

Looks like pensionloans4u.co.uk was there old website but now they use pension-loans.com instead for some reason, maybe because pension-loans.com has whois details hidden and they forgot to do that with pensionloans4u.co.uk perhaps?

I think you're right Neil. Additionally, De Vere Monaco Ltd have NOTHING to do with this.

Noted www,pensionloans4u.co.uk
Domain name:
       pensionloans4u.co.uk

   Registrant:
       Elliott Laurence

   Registrant type:
       Unknown

   Registrant's address:
       121-3 Courthill House
       60 Water Lane
       Wilmlsow
       SK9 5AJ
       United Kingdom

Elliott Laurence does look interesting, although I think there's another company involved. Here's an EL data reference:

PENSION-LOANS.COM is a trading name for Elliott Laurence Ltd, an independent Business Advice company. We only offer solutions on securing ...
www.pension-loans.com

Three companies, two dissolved, one new:

1. Name & Registered Office:
ELLIOT LAURENCE LIMITED new and trading, no accounts filed yet
6 POOL MEADOW
CHESLYN WAY WALSALL
WALSALL
UNITED KINGDOM
WS6 7PB
Company No. 07408927
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/elliot-laurence-1

2. Name & Registered Office:
ELLIOT LAURENCE LIMITED dissolved
2 LIBERTY PLACE
SHEEPCOTE STREET
BIRMINGHAM
B16 8JB
Company No. 06547753
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/elliot-laurence

3 Name & Registered Office:
ELLIOT LAURENCE (MIDLANDS) LIMITED (dissolved, previous address also 6 Pool Meadow...)
SUITE 46 HILTON HALL HILTON LANE
ESSINGTON
WOLVERHAMPTON
WEST MIDLANDS
WV11 2BQ
Company No. 06901028
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/elliot-laurence-(midlands)

http://whois.domaintools.com/elliottlaurence.com throws up an Oldham address, not far from Manchester

registrant-firstname:            Sergio
registrant-lastname:             Pani
registrant-organization:         Ulysses Communications & Promo
registrant-street1:              312 Ripponden Road
registrant-street2:              James House
registrant-pcode:                OL4 2NY
registrant-state:                LAN
registrant-city:                 Oldham
registrant-ccode:                GB
registrant-phone:                +44.1616335009

Ironicly, on www.elliottlaurence.com it states:

"Do you want to stop creditor pressure, close your company, and maybe even start over again? Or do you want to get loan companies, banks, finance houses and anyone else you owe money to "off your back". Then it's time you got clear insolvency advice and contact Elliott Laurence now to start clearing all your financial worries!

Our teams of professional partners are experienced in dealing in Bankruptcy Insolvency and liquidations not only in the North West but also Leeds Manchester Liverpool Stoke Chester and Birmingham."

There's also...
http://whois.domaintools.com/elliotlaurence.co.uk
Domain name:
       elliotlaurence.co.uk

   Registrant:
       Darren Ardener

   Registrant type:
       UK Limited Company, (Company number: 6547753)
(that's http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/elliot-laurence )

   Registrant's address:
       1575 Bristol Road South
       Rednal
       Birmingham
       B45 9UA
       United Kingdom

Put "121-3 Courthill House" in to google and that brings up quite a list of company names associated with that address

Breatheasy Investments Ltd
Dellam Corporate Information Limited
RAIL SAVERS LTD
CashinYourPension.biz
GLOBAL STAR TRADING (UK) LIMITED

As well as the address given for Adrian Greave's public profile on plaxo.com here: http://www.plaxo.com/profile/show/222884?pk=1 ... 38b1a997f707760

Look up pension-loans.com and Elliott laurence's pages on facebook and you will see Adrian Gleave is a member of both pages.

Elliot laurence on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=102710526431913&v=wall
Pension-loans on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=1027105 ... 100000521309259

Adrian Gleave on linkedin http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/adrian-gleave/4/b7/80

Current occupation is "Owner at Intent21 Ltd" & "CEO at Emporia Inc."

For info Ulysses Communications & Darren Ardener (justapplications Ltd) look both to be web design companies, so look to be unrelated to this other than them obviously having been contracted to design and register the sites.

Postcode search short cut
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/search/SK9%205AJ

Directors
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/Company/Find?q=person+Adrian+Gleave

Dellam.com has one too, but crashes sometimes, although more complete

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/breatheasy-consulting has a familiar address - see above
BREATHEASY CONSULTING LIMITED
JAMES HOUSE
312 RIPPONDEN ROAD
OLDHAM
UNITED KINGDOM
OL4 2NY
Company No: 07173357

;-) 312 RIPPONDEN ROAD... Breatheasy and  Ulysses share

I doth my cap to thee impressive internet detective skills, well spotted ;-)

From companiesintheuk info on Breatheasyconsulting Ltd "Previous Company Names
BREATHEASY LOANS LTD"

This is Breatheasy Loans website: http://www.breatheasyloans.com

See how it has the same contact address as http://www.elliottlaurence.com and phone number just a few digits out

BreathEasy Loans Ltd
20 Market Street
Altrincham
Cheshire
WA14 1PF

Tel: 0800 996 1129

So if anyone fancies a Breatheasy loan with only 25% on top to repay & 1845% APR!! Adrian Gleave is your man ;-)

312 RIPPONDEN ROAD, Also the address for...

Unique Style Property Developments LTD, Property Developers (Head Office) based in the Ripponden Road area of Oldham Tel: 0161-622 0938 Address: 312 Ripponden Road Oldham Lancashire OL4 2NY  http://www.oldham.org.uk/street/Ripponden_Road/

and

Liquid Expat Mortgages
http://www.liquidexpatmortgages.com/CONTACT-US-page-7.html

Indeed, post code searches are great http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/Company/Find?q=OL4+2NY

Liquid Expat Mortgages, James House, 312 Ripponden Road, Manchester, OL4 2NY, UK
Telephone +44 (0) 161 633 5009 Fax +44 (0) 845 345 2706

Ulysses Fulfilment Ltd t/as Liquid Expat Mortgages is an introducer appointed representative of Liquid Offshore Ltd who is authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority.

http://whois.domaintools.com/liquidexpatmortgages.com

Registrant:
ulysses
52 Church Lane
Romiley, Cheshire SK6 4AA
GB

Domain name: WWW.LIQUIDEXPATMORTGAGES.COM

Administrative Contact:
   marshall, stuart  
   52 Church Lane
   Romiley, Cheshire SK6 4AA
   GB
   +1.08453452705
Technical Contact:
   marshall, stuart  
   52 Church Lane
   Romiley, Cheshire SK6 4AA
   GB
   +1.08453452705

Name & Registered Office:
LIQUID OFFSHORE LIMITED
4 STONEPAIL CLOSE
GATLEY
CHEADLE
CHESHIRE
SK8 4HX http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/search/SK8%204HX
Company No. 06026818

    AR01    10/02/2011     13/12/10 FULL LIST
    
       LATEST SOC       10/02/2011       10/02/11 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 3
      
    AA    16/09/2010     31/12/09 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
    
    AR01    22/01/2010     13/12/09 FULL LIST
    
    CH01    22/01/2010     DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / CHRISTOPHER PETER TYLER / 02/10/2009
    
    CH01    22/01/2010     DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / STUART MARSHALL / 02/10/2009
    
    AA    30/10/2009     31/12/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
    
    363a    14/01/2009     RETURN MADE UP TO 13/12/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
    
    AA    08/10/2008     ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 31/12/07
    
    363a    17/12/2007     RETURN MADE UP TO 13/12/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
    
    288a    13/11/2007     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
    
    287    04/01/2007     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 04/01/07 FROM:
G OFFICE CHANGED 04/01/07
120A REDDISH LANE
GORTON
MANCHESTER
M18 7JL
    
    288a    04/01/2007     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
    
    288a    04/01/2007     NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED;NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
    
    288b    21/12/2006     DIRECTOR RESIGNED
    
    288b    21/12/2006     SECRETARY RESIGNED
    
    NEWINC    13/12/2006     INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/liquid-offshore
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/search/SK8%204HX

Dear Scam Hunter?

Unique Style Properties were tenants at the address until 2008. They have absolutely nothing to do with Ulysses other than having an outdated address. They were based here for around 8 years as I understand it. Ulysses moved to Ripponden Road in September 2008.

Liquid Expat Mortgages is a client specialising in finance for expatriates. Ulysses designed and built the site and we host it. That is what a design agency does.

There is absolutely no association with any other other company and it would be appreciated if you withdrew any comments which would seem to imply or connect Liquid with any other company association.

I will address the other points made on your various posts separately.

Dear Horace

Liquid Expat Mortgages has no connection whatsoever with any pension loans business and does not provide pension loans in any format. It provides mortgages and remortages for expatriates.

Not entirely sure what the point of posting an excerpt from Companies House has to do with anything?

For clarity. Liquid is a Ulysses client and as such we register domains, design and build the sites, handle enquiries via phone and email and host the sites.

Hi Ben

As before Ulysses was the design ageny for Breatheasy Consulting which was a partner for Elliott Laurence. It is not unusual for the address to be James House. Part of our service was to register all details of the company and we retained the address as James House.

Dear Ben
Please note that Ulysses Communications & Promotions was the design agency for Elliott Laurence. The agency registered the web domain and Ulysses hosted  the site This is how many agencies work for clients.

The Elliot Laurence mentioned below
Company No. 07408927
Company No. 06547753
Company No. 06901028

are nothing whatsoever to do with the company for whom we carried out work for. The name is spelt wrong for starters as Elliott has 2 "t''s" and not one as shown above.

Your assumptions are wrong and have created some distress with other customers that we have registered here. You seem to have dragged into your conjecture -wrongly and somewhat indiscrimately. We are a small design and marketing agency and posts like this make a difficult task eben more arduous.

For clarity Ulysses is design and marketing agency.

Liquid works with expats in a specialised field which does NOT involve pension loans nor does it have any association with any other comapnies companies we have worked for and indeed continue to work for.

Ulysses originally designed and hosted the Elliott Laurence website but the business has now been transferred elsewhere as Elliott Laurence was sold on by its owners.