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Primus UK Ltd. 22 East Parade, Leeds, West Yorkshire.

YOU MUST READ THIS...

If you're here, you're probably in contact with Primus UK or a similar company and you are trying to find out more about them as their job advert was very vague or there point of contact random. Here is my summary of Marketing Pyramid Schemes, which is what Primus and 100's of other "companies" do in the UK. I hope you find it usefull...

Primus and other pyramid companies are desendants of The Cobra Group. a company that started in America in the 80's. It divised a pyramid scheme where, with no overheads or outlay, a person could make money by having a self-employed cost-free workforce and inticing business clients by offering a free marketing service, the catch being the workforce work on commission-only basis with no basic salary, working 13hr days 6 days a week, paying travel costs and expenses with no employment contract, benefits or pension. The incentive being the carrot at the top of the pyramid, which works for 1% of employees. For the rest, they are cold-callinng door-to door sales people making barely minimum wage, forever.

Primus is always "expanding" which basically means they want as many people as humanly possible out there on the streets selling for them all the time. Anyone remotely presentable will be offerered a job and they'll make you feel really special and unique to be offered it. The "interview" process is merely a sales pitch to make you sign up to the scheme. They want you before they've even met you.
Primus in Leeds has to interview 100 people a day and get 25 people a week fully on board with the scheme (i.e lasting more than 1 day) in order to meet it's targets. That data is alarming, out of 600 applicants, with everyone bar those with face tattoos getting the job, only 25 actually stick it for more than a day.

These companies spam job sites filtering out just about anybody to get people in for interviews. I responded to an "Events Assistant" position while others in the waiting room responded to "hospitality management training programme", "sales executive" and "trainee marketing manager". They'll get you in using any technique possible and withold the nature of the job untill the very last minute because if you walk after the 2nd interview satge it doesn't matter, they've had you out there for the day, free of charge, selling for them, too embarrassed to ditch your "mentor". And tomorrow they'll have another 100 applicants to see.

Making any serious money out of this is rare. Anyone who claims they are on 500 a week needs to deducted tax, deduct travel expences and divide their earnings by the number of hours they work in a day (13-14) to find that they are barely scraping minimum wage. To make the £250 a week as advertised in their ads you have to be generating 12 contracts per week. They have various job "promotions" that you can achieve pretty quickly but that's all part of the pitch to keep you interested and out there selling. If you are promoted it usually involves giving you a flashy job title and increasing your work load (i.e. training others to door-to-door whilst doing the same job with no pay increase)

Those 1% who do make money, only do so when they are "director" of their own company, but the downside is that the business model is not sustainable. You are only making as much money as your staff genrerate for you so you are entirely dependant on them. They leave or the recruitment dries up and you are back to the bottom of the pyramid.

Although they are guilty od mis-advertising, mis-representation and witholding information, it is not a scam, it's all above the law because reps are classed as self employed and, before you commit to working for them, you should be fully aware of what the job entails following your "observation" day. If you're not aware it is a poorly paid door-to-door sales job with no security then you've been blinded by the promises of earning 50k by christmas and having your own company by next year. Ask your "mentor" how long they've been doing and what they have achieved.

I did this for 2 days when I graduated in 2002 then I saw it wasn't for me. Looking for work again and got duped into attending the initial interview at Primus in Leeds yesterday. I got suspicious when I saw that over 40 people came for an interview and left in the 30 minutes I was at the office. I was selected after the manager "carefully reviewed my cv" but it was evident he had never even looked at it when I sat with him. He ignored my talk about sales and marketing experience and was more interested in what my favourite thing to cook was, and when he high-fived me in the interview I new it was doomed.

Graduates can do a lot better! Remember, these sorts of companies are known within the industry and having one on your CV isn't nessesarily a good thing. 100's of these marketing branches open annually in the uk but most liquidate within a few years. They have bad reputations and aren't used by the high flying clients they speak of, usually just low-rent gas and electricity brokers and people who want to shift a few knife sets.

So... to summarise... I'm writing this in caps so it stands out...

DON'T ATTEND THE OBSERVATION DAY AND WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY UNLESS YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT A CAREER AS A DOOR TO DOOR SALESPERSON. Because despite these companies telling you they do different marketing techniques, door to door is essentially what you'll be doing all the way to the top. Because it's the cheapest way to market, the only thing that will change is the products you sell.
IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE 1% THAT GET TO THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID, IT'S NOT WHAT THEY SELL YOU You will be the director of a non-credible non-sustainable company while someone still creams off the top of you. All you have is a job title . I can register with companies house tomorrow an be the director of my own business, it doesn't mean anything.
GRADUATES STAY CLEAR. If you want a career in your industry this is not for you and you can make more money elsewhere. If you're looking to get experience with the company, consider how reputable the company is.
IF YOU HAVE NO QUALIFACATIONS, CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS, OR WANT TO MAKE SOME QUICK SPENDING MONEY IN THE SHORT-TERM THEN GO FOR IT. If you can sell [***] to [***] then there is an opportunity to make yourself a quick buck or get off the doss. But don't see it as anything other than short-term.
I hope this has advised some people. Problem is you have to google scam to find it, so people who search must have idea that something don't add upp. I just feel sorry for grads and people with experience who think this is a real opprtunity. You have been warned...

It annoys me that you can only find forums like this if you google cult, scam or con after the name. Any search of "Primus uk ltd". seems to bring up reputable links to the head office in Nottingham. They prey on naive graduates and the unemployed who are too scared to ask questions and blinded by the fact that they are one of the "special chosen few". I hope this has helped some people. Read on for more bizarre but true tales...

Primus UK Ltd. 22 East Parade, Leeds, West Yorkshire.

YOU MUST READ THIS...

If you're here, you're probably in contact with Primus UK or a similar company and you are trying to find out more about them as their job advert was very vague or there point of contact random. Here is my summary of Marketing Pyramid Schemes, which is what Primus and 100's of other "companies" do in the UK. I hope you find it usefull...

Primus and other pyramid companies are desendants of The Cobra Group. a company that started in America in the 80's. It divised a pyramid scheme where, with no overheads or outlay, a person could make money by having a self-employed cost-free workforce and inticing business clients by offering a free marketing service, the catch being the workforce work on commission-only basis with no basic salary, working 13hr days 6 days a week, paying travel costs and expenses with no employment contract, benefits or pension. The incentive being the carrot at the top of the pyramid, which works for 1% of employees. For the rest, they are cold-callinng door-to door sales people making barely minimum wage, forever.

Primus is always "expanding" which basically means they want as many people as humanly possible out there on the streets selling for them all the time. Anyone remotely presentable will be offerered a job and they'll make you feel really special and unique to be offered it. The "interview" process is merely a sales pitch to make you sign up to the scheme. They want you before they've even met you.
Primus in Leeds has to interview 100 people a day and get 25 people a week fully on board with the scheme (i.e lasting more than 1 day) in order to meet it's targets. That data is alarming, out of 600 applicants, with everyone bar those with face tattoos getting the job, only 25 actually stick it for more than a day.

These companies spam job sites filtering out just about anybody to get people in for interviews. I responded to an "Events Assistant" position while others in the waiting room responded to "hospitality management training programme", "sales executive" and "trainee marketing manager". They'll get you in using any technique possible and withold the nature of the job untill the very last minute because if you walk after the 2nd interview satge it doesn't matter, they've had you out there for the day, free of charge, selling for them, too embarrassed to ditch your "mentor". And tomorrow they'll have another 100 applicants to see.

Making any serious money out of this is rare. Anyone who claims they are on 500 a week needs to deducted tax, deduct travel expences and divide their earnings by the number of hours they work in a day (13-14) to find that they are barely scraping minimum wage. To make the £250 a week as advertised in their ads you have to be generating 12 contracts per week. They have various job "promotions" that you can achieve pretty quickly but that's all part of the pitch to keep you interested and out there selling. If you are promoted it usually involves giving you a flashy job title and increasing your work load (i.e. training others to door-to-door whilst doing the same job with no pay increase)

Those 1% who do make money, only do so when they are "director" of their own company, but the downside is that the business model is not sustainable. You are only making as much money as your staff genrerate for you so you are entirely dependant on them. They leave or the recruitment dries up and you are back to the bottom of the pyramid.

Although they are guilty od mis-advertising, mis-representation and witholding information, it is not a scam, it's all above the law because reps are classed as self employed and, before you commit to working for them, you should be fully aware of what the job entails following your "observation" day. If you're not aware it is a poorly paid door-to-door sales job with no security then you've been blinded by the promises of earning 50k by christmas and having your own company by next year. Ask your "mentor" how long they've been doing and what they have achieved.

I did this for 2 days when I graduated in 2002 then I saw it wasn't for me. Looking for work again and got duped into attending the initial interview at Primus in Leeds yesterday. I got suspicious when I saw that over 40 people came for an interview and left in the 30 minutes I was at the office. I was selected after the manager "carefully reviewed my cv" but it was evident he had never even looked at it when I sat with him. He ignored my talk about sales and marketing experience and was more interested in what my favourite thing to cook was, and when he high-fived me in the interview I new it was doomed.

Graduates can do a lot better! Remember, these sorts of companies are known within the industry and having one on your CV isn't nessesarily a good thing. 100's of these marketing branches open annually in the uk but most liquidate within a few years. They have bad reputations and aren't used by the high flying clients they speak of, usually just low-rent gas and electricity brokers and people who want to shift a few knife sets.

So... to summarise... I'm writing this in caps so it stands out...

DON'T ATTEND THE OBSERVATION DAY AND WASTE YOUR TIME AND MONEY UNLESS YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT A CAREER AS A DOOR TO DOOR SALESPERSON. Because despite these companies telling you they do different marketing techniques, door to door is essentially what you'll be doing all the way to the top. Because it's the cheapest way to market, the only thing that will change is the products you sell.
IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE 1% THAT GET TO THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID, IT'S NOT WHAT THEY SELL YOU You will be the director of a non-credible non-sustainable company while someone still creams off the top of you. All you have is a job title . I can register with companies house tomorrow an be the director of my own business, it doesn't mean anything.
GRADUATES STAY CLEAR. If you want a career in your industry this is not for you and you can make more money elsewhere. If you're looking to get experience with the company, consider how reputable the company is.
IF YOU HAVE NO QUALIFACATIONS, CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS, OR WANT TO MAKE SOME QUICK SPENDING MONEY IN THE SHORT-TERM THEN GO FOR IT. If you can sell [***] to [***] then there is an opportunity to make yourself a quick buck or get off the doss. But don't see it as anything other than short-term.
I hope this has advised some people. Problem is you have to google scam to find it, so people who search must have idea that something don't add upp. I just feel sorry for grads and people with experience who think this is a real opprtunity. You have been warned...

It annoys me that you can only find forums like this if you google cult, scam or con after the name. Any search of "Primus uk ltd". seems to bring up reputable links to the head office in Nottingham. They prey on naive graduates and the unemployed who are too scared to ask questions and blinded by the fact that they are one of the "special chosen few". I hope this has helped some people. Read on for more bizarre but true tales...

I have been employed by one of these companies now for 7 week.  I can fully understand and sympathise with people who start this job under false pretences. It happened to me but I am determined to see this out. At the moment I am earning a half decent wage and have a crew in place. When I take out obs I never lie or mislead them into believing that they are guaranteed a wage as this was what happened to me. If I knew it was all commission based I would have never of left my steady job and guaranteed earnings. So all my team know exactly what they are getting into before they get given the opportunity. The people who claim that this is a scam either would have not got past the 2nd round interview or got through the toughest 3 weeks of the programme. The first 3 weeks are crazy you are indeed walking the streets for 8hrs a day and as the first week you are not expected to make any sales it's just about getting good at learning how to impulse prospects into buying products. And the way you have to work 2 weeks in hand which is about par for any legitimate company when you start. It can be disheartening basically working 3 weeks for almost nothing. I did get misled into believing that I would earn a minimum of £150 for the first 2 weeks of programme it was only when I checked my account at end of 3rd week and realised i got paid a massive £13 lol. So I questioned this to one of the leaders and he told me you only got paid for the sales you did. Basically I got conned. As I was in a fortunate position of having a good few grand behind me in my bank I decided to stick with it and now I have learnt a he'll of a lot about sales techniques I am doing well and am seeing my business grow. Non of my team are under any false illusion of making millions of pounds in a few month. I am glad that I stuck with it and I am also not niave enough to think when I do make the holy land of assistant manager / owner that things are going to be all rosy I know that what I have learnt from day 1 of the programme will have me prepared to take any knocks.

To sum this company up from an inside point of view.
Yes the opportunity is as genuine as anything. But it takes a he'll of alot of hard work, commitment and dedication and some weeks of not earning a penny. I just can't understand why the business insists on hiding the fact that it is door to door and it is commission based. That way the guys who came for an interview would be there because they see them selves as hardworking and not scared of commission based work. I understand people don't want to take the risk as tge fear of losing is greater than the excitement of winning. I myself have a young family to feed and with Christmas just round the corner it is a worry especially as we all rely on public transport to earn money and with the winters we have been having if they are not running we won't earn.

I just wish the business could be open and honest with every guy that comes for a 1st round  interview then it would not have all this negative feedback on forums such as this. And you know the guys or girls you take out in 2nd round interviews would not be freaked out by d2d sales.  Basically before I step one foot out of the office before dragging any poor bugger out I make them aware of the entirety of the job and also make clear that it is not what the business has in mind for the successful candidate long term.

I know I will make it to management then once I get there I will re evaluate my goals and see if I wish to carry on. I just want to prove to myself that I have the balls to make it.

One bit of advice ask loads of questions in your first round interview, don't be afraid to ask direct questions the owners are required by law not to intentionally mislead anyone. If you wish to proceed for a 2nd round interview come well prepared for the British weather, ware flat shoes or possibly black trainers.
This is a very challenging role so if you are not self motivated don't bother wasting your time.

If you do wish to take the job , it would be a great idea to have some funds in reserve as you won't earn much in first 3- 5 weeks. As you are 2 weeks in hand and tge first 2 weeks earnings are frankly a load of crap.  If you do make it past this then you will be in good stead to make it through the programme.

There is a great fun side to this and the people I meet all over the north west are lovely , I must get offered about 10 cups of tea a day, on occasions we have had whisky and have been invited in houses for certain other things haha . If this job was guaranteed earnings plus commission it would be the best job ever maybe it's because I love been out and meeting the public and am not afraid of some hard graft.

I have ended up at three of these interviews, due to the fact that they lie in their ads and keep coming up with new names! I have slightly different experiences than most other people on here, but in the end the same impression.

The first interview I attended was practically for the first job I'd applied for after graduating, so I was over the moon, especially since I had another interview lined up as well (at a completely different kind of company). My interview lasted longer than 10 minutes and we did talk about me, although I soon realised it wasn't quite what they'd advertised and I couldn't understand how they thought my experience and education suited their purpose. The ad had asked for 'fresh, funky media graduates'...

As far as I remember, I was aware that I would be heading out into the field, but I don't think I knew it was knocking on doors I'd be doing. My observation day ended fairly early compared to most of you, as well, and I don't think I had to pay my own way to Wigan, but it is possible I had to buy a daysaver.

The only thing I remember from the second interview is the dodgy office with the horrible smell, where they made me wait for ages.

Last interview, I basically did everything I could to show I was not the person for this job. I actually said that very thing, said I wasn't good at selling, I didn't want to sell dodgy products I didn't believe in and I wasn't suited for commision work. All to make sure I didn't get asked back for another observation day. And still, I was...!

This morning, I applied for a customer service job at Bour Bon Creation, via totaljobs.com. Initially, it looked legit, and I hadn't noticed the company name before. No mention of the usual no experience needed, start tomorrow, etc. But I soon realised this was just another one of those companies, as I saw other jobs they were advertising further down the page. When I got the email asking me to call them about an interview at 10.40, I simply knew, so I googled them. I've spent the last 5 hours looking into this, and I must say I'm shocked at the scale they're operating at.

It's not a scam, surely if it was they wouldn't be able to set up new company after new company. But I do feel genuinly sorry for people who gets sucked into this. I've been unemployed for a long time and I really need a job, but I have some self respect. I'm more than willing to work hard in a job I can be proud of and love, in fact I want to be a workaholic! But I would never put myself through something like this. What's the point of making loads of money if you only have time to spend it on a Sunday, which you will spend sleeping and mending a shattered body and mind? I'd rather move back in with my parents!

Update on the above:

As I didn't reply to their email, I got a call this evening. The girl was all chirpy when she introduced herself and still when she asked why I no longer wanted to go forward with my application. The minute I said I'd done research, her voice changed and she tried to change my opinion by saying they only got bad reviews because they were door-to-door. Had she let me finish speaking, instead interrupting me and being rude about me letting her finish, I could have told her the main reason I didn't want to go forward was that it was a direct sales role, which I will never be good at, not the customer service position I thought I applied for. Instead she wasn't interested in listening when I said what I had read didn't appeal to me, so she snapped and hung up. Guessing she's on commission too, and hadn't reach today's target for candidates coming in for an interview tomorrow.

I had a call and email this morning inviting me for an 'interview' tomorrow afternoon.  Thought this sounded too good to be true, especially since I never even applied for this job nor do I want to work in 'sales'!  I explained to the chirpy girl on the phone that I would go however my nana could pass away at any time so I may have to cancel.  So even with this in mind, she was happy for me to risk not being with my nana at this time and instead waste my time going to this 'interview'!!  Disgusting!!

Given the fact that there are so many people out of work and desperately trying to find a decent job, I think that they are taking advantage of the situation and putting people into an even worse situation earning less than they would on on JSA!

In fact having read all of the comments on here, I am quite looking forward to the chirpy girl giving me a call to ask why I never turned up, as I will tell her on behalf of myself and every other person whose time they have wasted, without letting HER get a word in edgeways..'I'm FAR too good for your scummy company and DO NOT EVER ring me again'!

How can we make this more public.. more people need to be warned and not have there time money and life wasted.

OK, thought I'd add my story to the ever-growing collection.

Latest name is "Liverpool Marketing Solutions" (no clues as to where it is based - but, more specifically, it is on Dale Street, Citrus House) or "JMS Marketing". I had the same thing a few others did - two e-mails from what appeared to be two separate companies, but were in fact, the exact same. Strange.

Anyway, from the moment I got the first phone call around two hours after submitting my CV, I was suspicious. The website, like others have said, was a shambles. But I went for the interview anyway. Loads of people in the waiting room. Looking back, I actually feel really sorry for these people and hope they haven't signed up to anything reluctantly.

After filling in an application with information they already had - again in a room with terrible pop music and two generic PA's behind desks in a rundown office - I get in and have the strangest interview of my life. I barely got a word in during the time I was in there, but anything I did say was absolutely marvellous. I'm quite a neurotic individual with a very low self-estimation (!) - I feel awkward when people over-egg my achievements and you could tell this guy was brown-nosing (shouldn't I be the one trying to impress HIM?)

Anyway, he says he'll call back later on. I haven't even got home before the phone rings telling me I've been successful. I just wish at this point I would have gone home and researched the company and found these warnings.

Second day - observations. I'm unfortunate in many regards, because our 'field' was Speke which isn't too far from where I live, but still about a twenty minute walk. The guy I'm shadowing didn't have a clue where he was. I had to lead the way. He goes into the first house - door-to-door sales. [***]. It was at this point I was already scrambling around searching for an excuse to get out of there. I'm not daft! I even contemplated doing a runner. But I waited for him to come back out before saying it wasn't for me.

Reading all of these comments has really angered me to be honest. Horrible scam.

Following on from my last post, I thought it would be relevant to talk a little bit about my 'mentor' for the one and a half hours I stuck out on the observation day...

On the way down to our destination he asks me, 'Do you like to be challenged?' Fair question, 'Yes', I say. Generic [***]. You know the score. Then he shows me a scar on his arm - 'I got this when I worked as a butcher in Morrisons'. Jokingly I say, 'Well, at least you'll have got to go home early'.

'Oh no, I stayed' he says - 'I even went to work on the day of my Father's wake'. What the [removed:lang]?!

He continued - 'I hate people who shirk work though - who stay off when they're a little bit ill'

No wonder - you get paid all for holidays and sick days in your line of work, you bad weirdo!

got ring this morning  ask me to go to the interview.i dont think i would attent now.

I would liek to thank everyone on this site for their honesty as i HAD an interview with this company tomorrow but have since cancelled it. Not with the epicness of Votex but I was not going to risk any dodgy dealing.

You wont make it to management bro. Sorry!

Yep, the exact same thing happened to me. Manchester Interactive Marketing, which operates at 20 Dickinson House, Dickinson Street, tried to scam me not too long ago. As a recent graduate with a very good classification of degree, I was enthusiastic and willing to impress, so when I received an email regarding an interview, I was more than happy to attend. During the interview, the woman told me that they were looking for a 2011 graduate to join the team, and that a degree was mandatory for the position. She also told me that it was an entry level graduate position, and the salary was 15K-20K per year (depending on experience). I was happy with the salary, and agreed to go to the second round, where I was presumably meeting the 'accounts manager' in the office. After being made to walk from one side of Manchester to the other, we were then told by this guy (who was no older than 28), that he was a top manager, and that he often liaises with many blue chip/large companies in the UK. It all seemed very far fetched (I'm a great believer in success, but do not believe that it is possible for a group of 20 somethings to be 'top managers'). Most top managers at reputable companies are at least in their 30's!!! He told us to take notes and observe a group of people around the same age as me (20-22), sell cheaply made, overpriced tooth whitener to the public. The whole thing was desperate and pathetic, and the '4 step scheme' from entry level - managerial level was just a con to lure young, unemployed graduates/college leavers into the pyramid scam. The young 'manager' then told me it was 100% commission, and after an awkward conversation about why there wasn't even a flat wage, he told me to make my way back to the office on my own (I got lost). I was determined to find the office just to tell them that I wasn't interested, and that a reputable sales company would work on at least a flat wage plus bonuses for reaching more targets. The girl at the office (aged 23) ignored my comments, and said "well, I'm only 2 years older than you, and I am making loads of money. I look more like 60 than 23 because I'm working so hard" (no love, that's the 6 inches of makeup you slapped on with a trowel). The moral of the story is: avoid 20 Dickinson Street, Dickinson House like dog turd on the street. They are scammers, and full of false promises. Loads of other companies operate at the same building. 4ward Promotions and Bradford Outsource being two of them. Look out for a woman called Kim. She is one of the main people trying to source budding new candidates. Do not fall into the trap. You will all eventually get real interviews with reputable companies. Just have to keep your chins up!

The details are:

20 Dickinson Street

Manchester

M1 4LF

Tel: 0161 241 5018, ext 1

Fax: 0161 923 6940

Read this post to find out how to piss them off.

This is the mail I got from Bourbon Creations Ltd:

Dear George ,


It was a pleasure speaking with you! Congratulations on being selected to attend a meeting with the manager on 14/10/2011 at 3:15 PM.

On arrival at our location, please advise the person on reception that you are there for an interview with  Bourbon Creations Ltd. Please make sure that your are smartly dressed and that you have a copy of your CV with you.

We are located on Dickinson St, we are number 20.

Coming from Oxford rd train station- When you come out of the station, turn left onto Oxford rd. When you get to MacDonalds turn right onto Portland st. Then take the first left, thats Dickinson St and we are the second building on the left hand side.

Coming down Portland st/ Piccadilly train/bus station- Go all the way down to the bottom of Portland st, you will pass dawsons music store and subway on the right. When you reach Billy Rock turn right down that road, thats Dickinson st and we are the second building on the left hand side.

Coming from the met- get off the met at St. Peter's square. Face towards the office blocks. There are 2 buildings the one on the left is a white building and the one on the right has closed down shops underneath it. In between those 2 buildings is a road, thats Dickinson st and we are the second building on the right.

Coming by car- Our full address is, 20 Dickinson st, manchester, M1 4LF. We are in the city the centre, the parking is pay and display outside our office.

If you do have trouble finding us then dont hesitate to call.


I very much look forward to seeing you then!

Kind Regards

Caroline

Tel: 0161 200 1114      

Currently at the moment we do not have a website, but you can have a look at our blog.

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Because I'm not [***] I Google-ed them. Top three results were all saying it was a scam (this site being one of them).

Was pissed so called number - no answer.
Remembered the other number they sent me:  0161 228 0569
Called it - lady answered for a company called 3D lmt (shoddy)

NOW THIS IS THE FUN PART.
Pretended to be a journalist reporting on there scam operation.
Freaked her/them out completely.

So if you, like me are pissed off call that number and do the same, or just rant (bare in mind that they might have changed there name... again)  

Hope you guys enjoy it like I did.

My son who is just 18 was called for an interview by JG marketing(when googled they came up on a list of about 18 other names) and was told to attend an interview the next day.He of course went 35 mles to the interview and was told he could possibly be called back for 2nd stage by 6 pm that night-he was.
Again travelled 35 miles(by bus) for another interview and was asked to go out for the day so he could be shown the ropes
Job was selling government grants for insulation-door to door not telephone and he was told hed get a starting'wage' of 100 a week plus commission but he was self employed..how could he be self employed and still be paid a 'wage'?
My son did this for 3 weeks and on more than one occasion missed his last bus home because the manager insisted they go to the pub for 'team building' and 'motivational talks'.Twice he had to fork out 40 pounds for a taxi home,which he wont get back now along with travel expenses and food recipts...By the 3rd week he had enough of being dropped in an unfamiliar place with just instructions to 'bag as many as ya can' with promises of a chinese take away if he reached so many sign ups(he never got that either) so he told JG that he wanted the money he was due and wouldnt be back as he was misled
He was told he would be paid in a months time..we are still waiting...Please dont be fooled by this,you'll be the losers

I have just received the same email. And the same I knew I did not send them any job application. How on earth did they gain my email.

If you can waste your time going to an interview, or a day with these then you can take out 10 minutes to read this *****PLEASE READ********

After recently watching a Panorama documentry about loopholes in the working system these companies was highlighted so I now am share my not so great "earn 30k basic" experience

From my experience (4 weeks of it) it is mentally scar'ing, if it sounds to good to be true then it is, not usually is, IT IS!. I just can't be [***] to reveal the location or company as it is all the same!

I got made redundant couple years ago so I have been struggling for work here and then until lately where I am getting by but I am training to be an electrician (when qualified I WILL be getting paid good money not with these silly ****s)

Well I sent my CV to this company and I had a phone call back within 4 hours which was a pleasent suprise (had no experience in sales or nothing like that, just speaking to customers on the phone that is it) and they loved my CV and got invited in for an interview the next day and when I walked up the stairs it was Swedish House Mafia, Fedde Le Gramd etc all on full blast in a room nearby I asked if there's some sort of party going on and it was 'the atmosphere room'.. (LOL WTF).

Let's face it when times get desprette being young and naive you sometimes like hearing what you wanna hear, so I did and after a day ine field (in my city not hours away, in one of the lowest class areas in our region not just city) I accepted the job (silly me), I told them I have sporting commitments which to put it bluntly I got paid a small bit for (mainly traveling) I would be allowed to be able to commit to that still (YEH RIGHT!!).

So I start on the Monday and I then go into this loud room with all this music blaring out like I am  in a nightclub then the music stops after pitch practicing and some smart, out going confidant guy who at the time I guessed owned the company greets everybody, this is when I should of relised it was all to good to be true, he shamelessly gloats about his earnings, his 60k 4by4 outside (which his wife made him buy after selling a Ferrari) and then he names everybody and what they earnt on the previous day/week.

Make no mistake, he's clever, he lures everybody in with the talk of money, "260 pounds, 110 pounds, she made yesterday out in the field.... 130 pounds!!! etc etc", this is all what everybody wants to hear, everything to  do with money, paid for trips to Spain, the Emirettes Stadium (who'd wanna watch them lot lol)

I then get into a full car (I am far to bloody tall to be getting in small full up cars and sitting in the back) and I ask why we ain't getting in the bus like last time and my reply was "we are going to.... hold on a second...... a village near Didcot" I was like "we have a comedian in the car, you winding me up?" I still cannot beleive I actually stuck it through 2-3 weeks after the first bloody day!!.

And all these so called earnings (my camp high fiving colleagues got) 70% of them do not have a bloody driving license and some are the wrong side of 30, and one still talked about how he wants to buy himself next year an Audi RS5 (they are [***] £75,000 brand new) and he had been with the company 6 months and I asked why he never took up driving and he replied (I have never been able to afford it really and I have been lucky enough to work close to home in the past)HA HA - you simply can't make it up can you? Even the spottiest, ugliest, skinniest teenager manages to grab himself a half decent car to start with, wether it is a Clio, or a Corsa and manage to fill the tank up with a 5er and then running it on fumes after his ugly hats on back to front mates have all coughed up a quid or so each.

And why isit one of the main topics of conversation other than the obvious sport and hot women are what we would all buy with earnings, and earnings we get from road trips where apparently everybody can earn as much as £1,500 in a week.... truely all is a bunch of balony and if I was rich enough I'd personally donate 10 quid to any of you not to go to the interview and to not waste your time and be full of false hope that you'll be living the dream cos of the company thinking at the end of the week you might be rolling into your football clubs car park or your mates house in a top of the range German or Italian sports car.

The managing director will tell you all the above is possible especially when you get to 'ownership' and that he will pay for to open an office at a location of your choice, this all sounds amazing doesn't it to be fair, but just please do not whatever you do get sucked in. Before I had left someone who left with me a week later told me that the day I had off "to go out for a meal on my sisters birthday" he wanted words with me about it.... Terrible eh?

I got on with everyone there fine, but some of the comments people came out with was astonishing and so arrogant, one who's car was an absolute tip, inside and outside (not really sure it was legal for the road to be honest) and traveled down the motorway (38 miles away to be precise) to work said he is going to be earning big money and that he couldn't stand most of the (****s) in the uk and yes he used the C word to describe them, because 'they don't have jobs'.... EH!? what so these honest people supporting their familes doing a trade which had died out are ****s? Are they ****s because they rasied a family, and now struggling to pay the mortgage because their trade had died out after years of it going so well? I am not a violant person but I actually wanted to tell him to pull over punch his [***] head off!!!!!

Every other week it was pizza and DVD night aswell, when you get back from the field between 10-11 at night everyone would gather around stuffing their unfit, fat selves with pizza's while watching a film everybody had already seen years ago, it is like a cult, and it seems the ones who's sucked in do not get out of it and tell themselfs their going to be rich and entreprenour (spelling) like, and I bet most of them have lost their friends, and in worst cases family and partners.

One final thing, some people even uprooted themselfs from what was their hometown/place/city their whole life to move down in some sort of shared house to do this rubbish, do not ever do this, just don't.

Sorry to write such a long story but I beleive there's some stories that you need to explain in full, and not short.

Do not get sucked into any of this rubbish and as much as you want to earn silly money (while your probobly living at home paying next to nothing in rent) be the bigger person and say on the phone no you are not interested, simples :)

OH and yet one final final thing.......

If you are a young woman do you really want to be wondering around when it is dark, and cold at night in some random village 2 hours away from home? They will also say nothing bad will happen to anyone and that the worst case scenario is being told to '[***] off', the shocking truth is, everyone keeps quiet, and anyone who opens their mouth about a scary incident are usually told to keep it quiet or won't utter a word.

A woman where I was had infact been chased out of a crazy woman's home with a knife, someone on a road trip had been invited in the house and when it came down to jotting down bank details, 3 grown men in the same room didn't take kindly to it aswell (you can guess the rest) he then quit (supposedly). These are just two unsavoury incidents that had happened within the space of a year.

This is the first time I've spoken fully about my experience to anybody btw, and I had to get it all off my chest :(

thanks man i just got the job to marketing endeavours in birmingham and exactly all this [removed:lang] happened thanks now im not gonna go this is [removed:lang]

thankyou exactly the same things going on here in BIRMINGHAM do not fall for it i felt it was a scam anyway me and some other teenager dude got selected but to many things happened to show me it was a scam and the boss was too serious plus everything was shoody they dont even own there own office they  reside here for now floor 2

Sbq1, near Smallbrook Queensway, Birmingham, B5, UK
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