02072454429

07543911            Devere Foreign Exchange Limited    
01181826            De Vere Gardens Services Limited    
05579152        D    De Vere Global Equities Limited    Dissolved
03341442            De Vere Golf & Leisure Limited    
00476640            De Vere Grand Brighton Limited    
06448724            De Vere Grand Brighton No 2 Limited    
00014504            De Vere Group Limited    
07430164            De Vere Group Finance Limited    
06798895            De Vere Group Holco Limited    
03903964            De Vere Group Investments Limited    
01982954            De Vere Homes Limited    
00047435            De Vere Hotels Limited    
00643407            De Vere Hotels and Restaurants Limited    
06448772            De Vere Hotels Group Limited    
03449116            De Vere Hotels Group Holdings Limited    
06126539            De Vere Hotels Holdings Limited    
06220024            De Vere Hotels No 4 Limited    
SC285364            Devere Hunt Consultancy Limited    
FC014289        C    Devere International Inc    Company Removed
05945022            Devere Investments Limited    
07419443            De Vere Investors Limited    
06035696            De Vere Land Limited    
03744868        D    De Vere Legal Services Limited    Dissolved    
06688911            De Vere Management Ltd    
06234985        D    De Vere Management Consultants Limited    Dissolved
04314009            De Vere Marketing Limited    
05845262            De Vere Media Ltd    
06922887            De Vere Medical Care Limited    
06798909            De Vere Midco Limited    
06745316            De Vere Monaco Limited    
03817659            De Vere Motor Company Limited    
05

Any warmer?

DOMAIN: DEVERE-GROUP.COM

RSP: Instra Corporation Pty Ltd
URL: http://www.instra.com

created-date: 2009-10-19 14:18:51
updated-date: 2010-07-22 22:09:45
registration-expiration-date: 2015-10-19 14:18:53

owner-organization: deVere Group Limited GmbH
owner-name: Ivan Ciancio
owner-street: SeeWurfel Nr. 2 Geschoss 4 Seefeldstrasse 281
owner-city: Zurich
owner-state:
owner-zip: 8008
owner-country: CH
owner-phone: +41.35621311600
owner-fax: +41.35621311700
owner-email:

deveregroup.co.uk

   Registrant:
       De Vere Group PLC

   Registrant type:
       Unknown

   Registrant's address:
       2100 Daresbury Park
       Daresbury
       Cheshire
       WA4 4BP
       United Kingdom

Or...

Domain name: DEVEREGROUP.COM

Administrative Contact:
   WILLIAMS, G  
   PO BOX 822
   ST HELIER, JERSEY JE4 0TU
   GB
   448703211428
Technical Contact:
   WILLIAMS, G  
   PO BOX 822
   ST HELIER, JERSEY JE4 0TU
   GB
   448703211428

This one looks like a favourite:

Registrant:
deVere Group Limited GmbH
SeeWurfel Nr. 2 Geschoss 4 Seefeldstrasse 281
Zurich, NA 8008
MT

Domain name: DEVEREANDPARTNERS.COM

Administrative Contact:
   Ciancio, Ivan  
   SeeWurfel Nr. 2 Geschoss 4 Seefeldstrasse 281
   Zurich, NA 8008
   MT
   +41.35621311600    Fax: +41.35621311700

I missed some! As Green is CEO of DVP, 05260529 could be the one too
04122390            DEVERE LTD    
03712482        D    DEVERE ALLIANCE LIMITED    Dissolved
03742327            DE VERE & CO SERVICES LIMITED    
06998737            DEVERE AND PARTNERS LTD    
05260529            DEVERE AND PARTNERS (UK) LIMITED    
04290111            DE VERE ASSOCIATES LIMITED
Thanks for your time; appreciate it Old Bloke

Getting there... 06998737  is about to be struck off but...

DEVERE AND PARTNERS (UK) LIMITED
3RD FLOOR, 3 DYERS BUILDINGS
HOLBORN
LONDON
EC1N 2PJ
Company No. 05260529

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 15/10/2004

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
6523 - Other financial intermediation
Accounting Reference Date: 30/11
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/11/2009  (FULL)
Next Accounts Due: 31/08/2011
Last Return Made Up To: 15/10/2010
Next Return Due: 12/11/2011
Last Members List: 15/10/2010
Previous Names:
Date of change    Previous Name
16/10/2008    SPECIALIST MORTGAGE COMPANY LIMITED


    AR01    03/11/2010     15/10/10 FULL LIST
    
       LATEST SOC       03/11/2010       03/11/10 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 215000
      
    AA    03/10/2010     FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/09
    
    AP01    01/10/2010     DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR RICHARD ANDREW BAYLE
    
    TM01    30/09/2010     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR NIGEL GREEN
    
    AD01    18/01/2010     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 18/01/2010 FROM
1-4 PALLADIUM HOUSE ARGYLL STREET
LONDON
W1F 7LD
    
    AR01    12/01/2010     15/10/09 FULL LIST
    
    CH01    12/01/2010     DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / NIGEL GREEN / 04/12/2009
    
    AP04    13/11/2009     CORPORATE SECRETARY APPOINTED SOLAR SECRETARIES LIMITED
    
    AD01    13/11/2009     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 13/11/2009 FROM
CAPITAL PLACE 120 BATH ROAD
HEATHROW
MIDDX
UB3 5AN
    
    TM02    13/11/2009     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY ASK! COMPANY SECRETARIAL LIMITED
    
    AD01    09/11/2009     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/11/2009 FROM
154 ROTHLEY ROAD
MOUNTSORREL
LOUGHBOROUGH
LEICESTERSHIRE
LE12 7JX
    
    288a    11/09/2009     DIRECTOR APPOINTED NIGEL JAMES GREEN
    
    288b    30/07/2009     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR JOHN SCOTT
    
    RES12    13/04/2009     VARYING SHARE RIGHTS AND NAMES
    
    AA    19/03/2009     30/11/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
    
    363a    09/12/2008     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
    
    190    09/12/2008     LOCATION OF DEBENTURE REGISTER
    
    287    09/12/2008     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/12/08 FROM:
GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/12/2008 FROM
TEMPERANCE VILLAS 154 ROTHLEY ROAD
MOUNTSORREL
LEICESTERSHIRE
LE12 7JX
    
    353    09/12/2008     LOCATION OF REGISTER OF MEMBERS
    
    288c    09/12/2008     SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ASK! COMPANY SECRETARIAL LIMITED / 01/03/2008
    
    MEM/ARTS    24/10/2008     MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
    
    CERTNM    16/10/2008     COMPANY NAME CHANGED SPECIALIST MORTGAGE COMPANY LIMITED
CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 16/10/08
    
    288b    17/07/2008     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR PAUL CLARKE
    
    287    11/03/2008     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 11/03/08 FROM:
GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 11/03/2008 FROM
3 LEICESTER ROAD
ANSTEY
LEICESTERSHIRE
LE7 7AT
    
    AA    06/03/2008     30/11/07 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
    
    363a    20/12/2007     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
    
    AA    14/09/2007     TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/06
    
    288b    31/01/2007     DIRECTOR RESIGNED
    
    288a    18/01/2007     NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
    
    288b    08/01/2007     SECRETARY RESIGNED
    
    363s    07/11/2006     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
    
    AA    31/07/2006     TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/05
    
    225    24/10/2005     ACC. REF. DATE EXTENDED FROM 31/10/05 TO 30/11/05
    
    363s    11/10/2005     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
    
       363(288)       11/10/2005       DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
      
    288c    07/04/2005     DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
    
    288a    09/11/2004     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
    
    288a    09/11/2004     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
    
    288a    09/11/2004     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
    
    288a    09/11/2004     NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
    
    288b    15/10/2004     DIRECTOR RESIGNED
    
    288b    15/10/2004     SECRETARY RESIGNED
    
    NEWINC    15/10/2004     INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

BobD

At one stage it was registered via Canton Zurich in Suisse but that does not mean much, holding company was Nevis, a favorite offshore centre but again that does not mean much. If you are outside the UK you can have many structures that have little regulation. Not a problem but you won't get to the bottom of it I am telling you as fact, that does not mean that there is anything wrong just it wors in a different way.

The UK one yes but the Uk operation is an FSA regulated business that only works in the UK so has no bearing on anything else.

I just can't see where you are trying to go and the reason behind it, you ain't working for a UK structure.

The world is a big place and the UK is tiny so you can pick and choose how you set up, think of Barclays in the news recently and they are a PLC so a private company!

What are you trying to achieve?????

Hey.
Didn't have time to write. See that someone took my nickname to post. Thanks dude.
So, the presentation was not really a presentation, but a ridiculous mumble of some guy named Steve about everyone becoming millionaires.
And Darren Height to me looked like he had a huge hangover and kept drinking water without saying almost anything ;). A typical looser expat.
Yes, there is no base salary.
Fun part was first saying that consultants are not to make cold calles and arrange meetings, then say you have to, and the first people to call are your relatives and friends trying to make them give you a minimum of 500 GBP a month as a SIPP plan ;).
The minimum monthly income of their consultant (which they claim to be three in Moscow, after 8 years of their presence here) is 7100 GBP per month. And, as they said, they made it on the friends-relatives services sales HAHA!
The next thing is you have to go study to Malta without knowing if you ever pass their stupid tests and get the job.
However, there were many Russian idiots out there who were ready for this "once in a lifetime oppotunity". And the ones who are off to it look incredibly stupid. No wonder the feedback on their presentaions and cold calles are so down.
It was fun. Got to eat at one of my favourite restaurants downtown near National hotel, rarely get to this part of the city - traffic is too bad. So, the day was better in the end!
Cheers guys.
PS: as it is said JEDEM DAS SEINE - so, if someone is off to this [***] trip and succeeds - I salute them!

I worked in CH and DE for 5 years so am familiar with the different regulations and structures. I'll drop my mates there a line and see what they can dig up and make of it from registers and contacts. FSA is NOT functional, so that counts for little, UK or ex-UK. If there's a verifiable money trail in some audited accounts, DVP was a maybe, but from the postings here, and your opacity, probably a huge waste of time. To be honest, I don't think even a forensic auditor or the FSO could unravel DVP's accounts from what I've seen on their sites and at Comp' Hse.  What on earth are you trying to sell? A life on the run?

FMOB, hilarious, Abe! If these guys were up-front and crisp and clean they'd get the guys who are tenacious enough to make it work for themselves (and DVP's pockets). But by not being transparent from the start, the intelligent scam aware sales guys won't touch them with a barge pole and the intelligent targets with the real money will spot the mules who do work for them a mile off as chancers. I guess it's an empire of mugs selling to mugs. Not a good foundation for any pyramid if a tsunami comes along. Glad you saw through it!

Fair comment my friend, hope life treats you well!

Yes it is a maze but loads of offshore structures run like that so I am not too concerned about that part, what I speak from is the fact of the role and structural set up, i.e. what the job entails and what you get paid and what support you get.

If it was such a career path, then why do all the good ones leave - cause they can do it better and more profitably for themselves. The crap ones just can't make it happen. The middle ground can't make it profitable when looking at all the other costs and keep the momentum going.

The mugs (clients) I am afraid get a raw deal, the other mugs (advisers) either don't really care or fail.

I worked for them for 6 months stay well clear, it's not worth it. £100K+ [***]

In my opinion, DVP looks rather fishy. They certainly sounded it when they called me (but from a different number to this one...) and  I'd be very cautious about engaging with them, be it as a client or agent. As an agent, you'd risk be marked for life as a shady operator and kiss any hope of setting up on your own in future. Reputation is everything in this game.

James

I hear what you say and sorry it did not work for you, what areas would you say were the weaknesses from what you were sold, I ask this as it will be useful to other forum readers to hear from a guy that tried it for 6 months?

Ed

I disagree, nobody has heard about them and nobody cares other than a few Expats so I do not believe that is a fair comment. I think it is difficult to build long term in DVP but you have an option of then leaving and doing your own thing. The value and income you can actually take with you is limited as most trail fees etc. will remain with DVP.

Folks your missing the point. Save your money , if you want to join Financial Services go do the CeFA exam and then you will know if you want to enter the service.
The one objection that will blow you out of the water will be that the Client says " I am getting 3 different plans and will get back to you " or he invites his partner to the meeting "
This sales process is about disturbing the client , convincing them that they dont have enough money for retirement, do something now and sell the one product fits all and have a large commission component to make it all worthwhile for every one gets a drink.
You can do an CeMap course and become fully qualified with about 2000Pounds , and that will be far less than what I hear you will spend with DVP.
read a little into this post and I am sure that if you really would like to enter this business it could be the way to go.
If you really think about it there are 2 sales , one is to get people to work for you at the best price , the second is to get clients onboard with the most commission. You are part of the first process at present.

hi doug i read your post hows things going at the moment in the role and where are you located

Hi, how is it going in Cyprus? Is the job worth taking?

Got a proper non-DVP job. No scams  to worry about that way :-)