01516680386

Think Toby's unwillingness to talk to the BBC and sneak in to work by the back door has explained his role.

I wasn't thinking of TW

Please ,no insults , we are giving our opinions . At the end of the day one gave and one took .Both sides needed each other  and a team was created to defraud innocent  people .

Is it me or are we all starting to sing from the same hymn sheet? There was deception by a couple of major players and others that knew what it was but still were happy to go along for the ride and money.

It is very difficult to decide who is more  guilty . Is it the store first mob or is it the introducer mob. Store first could not have done anything without being the funds and the others could not have done anything without having a vehicle  to effect the swindle. At the end of the day both sides are equally to blame once you have analysed the entire situation. I believe the authorities are looking at both sides.

Being should read having, sorry!

New operation from messrs Fox, Westhead and Chapman-Clark:

http://www.allonefinancial.com

Omar seems to have got himself an offshore company in Nevis too.

Also keep en eye on European Product Sourcing House based in Gibraltar.

QROPS for UK residents, Jesus! Will be a Gib firm, known for working with Nunn and McCreesh who are mentioned in the IS report.

HUDSON CLARK LIMITED T/A ALL ONE FINANCIAL

Correct me if I'm wrong.. Hudson Clark were also trading as NPR? Can't check because they were quick to remove the website.

The telephone number for allonefinancial is the number for Portia.

Portia are linked to cold calls that push Harbour QROPS. The money will end up in some insurance contract in the Caymans with some "great investment" in some closed end fund or property fund that is a sure bet!

Tel No was same as Storefirst
They keep updating changing and things get missed like this below
All One Financial
Customer Care Team
25 Goodlass Road
Speke
Liverpool
This one links to the Chapel St 'Friendly Address'
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/james-lees-91bb485b

wow stumbled on this thread by accident doing some due diligence. Its pretty close to home as I've personally stored goods at Store First so I was intrigued. I've spent about 1 hour doing some research online which has told me more than 1 hour on this thread ever would have which says it all really.

Facts:
1) there was a pension fraud here in terms of how funds / returns where accounted for
2) the actual product bought exists

Seems to me that there would be a case for pension fraud but no case for the actual purchase of the product.

The fact that people may in hindsight regret the purchase does not make it a fraud. I have just had to sell two apartments I bought 10 years ago for a £60k loss. Do I regret buying yes, did I overpay yes, was I oversold yes, was I defrauded no. I'd like to think I'm an intelligent financially aware guy, how I ever thought a one bed apartment in the locations I bought where worth £160,000 I don't know but I did. I made my choices freely and live with the consequences. Thats life.

Seems to me that there is a distinct lack of reality in this thread but I have sympathy for anyone badly advised regarding pensions. I am sure that the FCA are investigating this and based on my own experience they will get to the bottom of it, albeit they don't look at the facts with a bias I think is evident in this thread. They simply stick to facts. Facts often take time and patience to gather with matters such as this and often don't fit the many assumptions which people make into facts.

Of course I'll be shot down for stating the obvious or not too obvious on this thread ;-)

Was a clear fraud, the pensions were taken and invested and there has been no return.

Fraud and deception has taken place and in addition 3 years returns should have been added  which total over 2.5 million pounds. I have great sympathy for you but there is no comparison with the capita oak situation.

wow stumbled on this thread by accident doing some due diligence. Its pretty close to home as I personally store goods at Store First in Liverpool so I was intrigued. I've spent about 1 hour doing some research online which has told me more than 1 hour on this thread ever would have which says it all really.

Facts:
1) there was a pension fraud / mismanagement here in terms of how funds / returns where accounted for
2) the actual product bought exists, is alive and kicking

Seems to me that there would be a case for pension fraud mismanagement but no case for the actual product bought.

The fact that people may in hindsight regret the purchase does not make it a fraud. I have just had to sell two apartments I bought 10 years ago for a £60k loss. Do I regret buying yes, did I overpay yes, was I oversold yes, was I defrauded no. I'd like to think I'm an intelligent financially aware guy, how I ever thought a one bed apartment in the locations I bought where worth £160,000 I don't know but I did. I made my choices freely and live with the consequences. Thats life. At the end of the day you have to take some accountability for making your own decisions.

Seems to me that there is a distinct lack of reality in this thread but I have sympathy for anyone badly advised regarding pensions. I am sure that the FCA are investigating this and based on my own experience they will get to the bottom of it, albeit they don't look at the facts with a bias I think is evident in this thread. They simply stick to facts. Facts often take time and patience to gather with matters such as this and often don't fit the many assumptions which people make into facts.

Of course I'll be shot down for stating the obvious or not too obvious on this thread ;-)

I very much doubt its as simple as 3 years returns have not been paid. If that was the case I have to believe the authorities would have stopped store first from trading. As I say, appears to me to be people making assumptions into facts.

Forgot fact 3, the product is a Ponzi scheme just like the Carpark spaces, didn't your duedil take you to the Action Fraud website warning of this.

ps I made my bed and can lie in it. I seek no sympathy and was not implying the two are directly related just an example of how some of the comments posted on here will come across to joe public, ie you will not get sympathy for making bad decisions. If pensions have been mismanaged / fraud has taken place then thats a different matter. However the two seem to get blurred on here, I have sympathy for one, none for the other.

Don't you speak to the people who have not received the returns and then you can decide if assumptions have been made

lol another perfect example of people making assumptions fit their version of facts. I am a customer at store first, I walk into the place, talk to the staff, see the money that has been spent and is being spent to continue to run the place. I pays my money, I love the product. I have no idea where my rent goes but I have to believe if it was not going to the correct legal entity it would be an easy case for the authorities to stop them from trading and take criminal proceedings. The fact its obvious the authorities have been aware of this for so long now tells me thats not the case.
The action fraud warning is a perfect example of being too close and blind to the facts. What the warning tells me as someone distant from this and without a bias is that some unscrupalous persons have been carrying out a fraud (boilerroom) using the Storefirst Product. Please take the time to actually understand what a boilerroom and ponzi scheme is. This can't be a ponzi scheme simply because I have seen, touched and felt the product, etc... etc.... and its still trading. do you think the police would allow Storefirst to still trade if it where a ponzi scheme, the answer as much as you dislike it is no. What the action fraud website tells me is that the product has been so successful that fraudsters are using it as a cover for fraud and the police are warning people about that. I don't have rose tinted glasses on making facts fit my assumptions.