02072454429

They are not a PLC now, although they may have been once:
Company Number 03231927  DE VERE CONSULTANCY PLC Dissolved

Skint. If you were transferred in to a QROPS you may have some come back against the provider. I have avoided selling QROPS totally for this very reason.

hi guys in training now in malta. lots of hot air but have you really worked for them? what about Andy Chalklin? has he worked in banking before? guy cant spell equity (writes eqhity) and says layman brothers instead of lehman brothers and he conducts training... a bit alarmed!!!

Classic Devere staff.

Make the most of Malta and do some sight-seeing or get the first flight home.

Just don't waste your time with their 'training' or get sucked into a life of scams and fraud

Yes mcjason,  I actually worked for them, how would i know so much about what they do fROm a insider point of view. I worked in Switzerland i flew back to England on the 10th April 2011. i still have the contract on me that i didn't sign.

Just ask them, that you've been reading a lot of bad press about the company i'll bet you £1000 they'll say " its the competition saying that" How do i know that, because thats exactly what they told me.

Deepest apologies "Hark the angels sing" i actually thought you were Liam Boyland

OnceBitten, if you have evidence that you were misled, you should inform the Swiss financial services authority, FINMA (http://www.finma.ch/e/pages/kontakt.aspx).

You might be interested in this forum: http://www.englishforum.ch/forum.php,
especially this section: http://www.englishforum.ch/finance-banking-taxation/.

They even have a thread on the subject, from the client's point of view: http://www.englishforum.ch/finance-banking-ta ... ing-expats.html
But if you post you must be careful NOT TO MENTION ANY NAMES.

Old Bloke wrote: "You will not be able to do due-diligence, you are thinking to much. … If you are outside the UK you can have many structures that have little regulation. Not a problem but you won't get to the bottom of it I am telling you as fact, that does not mean that there is anything wrong just it wors in a different way. "

I disagree. A potential client can't think too much when it comes to checking out a financial advisory company (or sales company, in Devere's case) or the investments they recommend (or sell). If you want any kind of safety net as a consumer, the company needs to be authorised and supervised by the financial services authority in the country in which you live. Check with that authority that this is the case. The fact that they may be on the company register is not enough to ensure that you have any come-back if/when you realise that you have been misled. The company can be registered but not supervised. If it has chosen to operate below the radar or is not supervised/authorised by the relevant authority, the client should be wondering why and whether this is in his best interests.

But from the "adviser's" point of view (and Old Bloke says he used to work for DV), it's obviously best if the client doesn't think too much or ask too many awkward questions. As it says here (http://www.ameinfo.com/65933.html), hyenas like easy prey.

And as Old Bloke may add, if anyone visiting here is considering a Devere HMRC QROPS, don't!

Yes, Devere dislike clients or potential recruits undertaking any kind of due-diligence on Devere. It annoys the clients and employees who didn't and are up to their necks in mire.

Will do thanks......

Sharkbait, you are quoted out of context. What I said is it would be impossible to get to the bottom of the DVP structure.

In UK and other areas there can be strong regulatory structures elsewhere it is different. The product that DVP sell is not outside of regulatory structures at all, although in some cases it appears that they sail close to the wind. The point.

As a consulant you will not get what you are promised.

As a client you will get sold to in a way that may not be good.

That is about it really, it does not really matter much to me what you all do, but if you read the threads that I have posted you will have the best overview from somebody that actually knows DVP, the industry and a whole lot more. Take it or leave it, but accept it is posted as a reference point.

I have worked for deVere before and im here to tell you what they don't. The people at the training day are mere salesmen just like anyone at deVere and dont tell you the complete truth.

They lure you in with false promises and naively i bought into it but know that once you have booked the flight they know that they have sold you and the dream quickly turns into a nightmare as from there they don't care, in fact they didn't even bother to tell me on the visa requirements so when i was at the airport i had to pay for another ticket. Your chances from there are slim and none, as it is dog eat dog environment and they take no prisoners. I never did get paid my flight or my accommodation in the end and was lucky not to end up bankrupt.

I wont say don't go as you are your own person but me like everyone else on here have a duty to tell you what they are really like but what i will say is DEMAND TO SEE THE CONTRACT TO WHAT OFFICE YOU ARE ASSIGNED BEFORE YOU LEAVE. You are at least entitled to that and then you have something to legally fall back on if they refuse to pay you and you can see the real truth, that's the only bit of advice i can give.

Good luck buddy, i think you may need it.

p.s it's funny the people saying how great it is on here "clearly spoken from the recruitment department" it's exactly the same words i used to hear before i made the worst mistake of my life. I don't care how much you have earned through scamming people you are just sleazy con-men and that will never change.

I have worked for this company and I can assure everyone that they are above board. The have office in most major cities around the world and the promote the products of some of the largest financial institutions in the business such as Deutsche Bank, Generali, Royal Skandia, Morgan Stanley etc. If you are a self starter and hungary to earn money then this can be a great opportunity but you have to work hard and buidl up your own client base however if you put in the hard work at the start it can be very rewarding.

I think you're mistaken. They have a terrible reputation and DB for one are tired of being tarred with the same scam brush as they have painted themselves into a corner with. I had to eradicate them from my CV by saying I took 2 years off to build my house. Still have nightmares about the cops chasing me. Amazing what crops up in Google! Loved reading the post here. Brought back some funny faces and idiots.

Looking for a DeVere Company? Here are a few of the UK ones at Companies House:
06945830            DE VERE CENTRAL SERVICES LIMITED    
06991295            DE VERE COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED    
03231927        D  DE VERE CONSULTANCY PLC    Dissolved
05963764            DEVERE CONSULTANTS LTD    
05845028            DE VERE CONSULTING LTD    
06947795            DE VERE CONTRACTING LIMITED    
02671685            DE VERE CONTRACTORS LIMITED    
04299342            DE VERE CORPORATION LIMITED    
00901465            DE VERE (C.R.) LIMITED    
04710828            DE VERE CREDIT LIMITED    
06292586            DE VERE DEVELOPMENT LIMITED    
05195309            DEVERE ESTATE AGENCIES LIMITED    
06585163            DE VERE ESTATES LIMITED    
06849717            DE VERE EXECUTIVE CAR HIRE LIMITED    
02952518            DE VERE FABRICS LIMITED    
03054134            DE VERE FARMS LIMITED    
05534243        D    DE VERE FINANCE LIMITED    Dissolved
06448468            DE VERE FINANCE NO 1 LIMITED    
06448650            DE VERE FINANCE NO 3 LIMITED    
06448657            DE VERE FINANCE NO 2 LIMITED    
04299098        D    DE VERE FINANCIAL SERVICES LIMITED    Dissolved
07543911            DEVERE FOREIGN EXCHANGE LIMITED    
01181826            DE VERE GARDENS SERVICES LIMITED    
05579152        D    DE VERE GLOBAL EQUITIES LIMITED    Dissolved
03341442            DE VERE GOLF & LEISURE LIMITED    
00476640            DE VERE GRAND BRIGHTON LIMITED    
06448724            DE VERE GRAND BRIGHTON NO 2 LIMITED    
00014504            DE VERE GROUP LIMITED    
07430164            DE VERE GROUP FINANCE LIMITED    
06798895            DE VERE GROUP HOLCO LIMITED    
03903964            DE VERE GROUP INVESTMENTS LIMITED    
01982954            DE VERE HOMES LIMITED    
00047435            DE VERE HOTELS LIMITED    
00643407            DE VERE HOTELS AND RESTAURANTS LIMITED    
06448772            DE VERE HOTELS GROUP LIMITED    
03449116            DE VERE HOTELS GROUP HOLDINGS LIMITED    
06126539            DE VERE HOTELS HOLDINGS LIMITED    
06220024            DE VERE HOTELS NO 4 LIMITED    
SC285364            DEVERE HUNT CONSULTANCY LIMITED    
FC014289        C    DEVERE INTERNATIONAL INC    Company Removed
05945022            DEVERE INVESTMENTS LIMITED    
07419443            DE VERE INVESTORS LIMITED    
06035696            DE VERE LAND LIMITED    
03744868        D    DE VERE LEGAL SERVICES LIMITED    Dissolved    
06688911            DE VERE MANAGEMENT LTD    
06234985        D    DE VERE MANAGEMENT CONSULTANTS LIMITED    Dissolved
04314009            DE VERE MARKETING LIMITED    
05845262            DE VERE MEDIA LTD    
06922887            DE VERE MEDICAL CARE LIMITED    
06798909            DE VERE MIDCO LIMITED    
06745316            DE VERE MONACO LIMITED    
03817659            DE VERE MOTOR COMPANY LIMITED    
05390122        D    DE VERE MOTOR COMPANY TORQUAY LIMITED    Dissolved
02288402            DE VERE MOTTRAM HALL LIMITED    
06037208        D    DEVERE ORGANICS LIMITED    Dissolved
06015194            DE VERE OULTON HALL LIMITED    
06016580            DE VERE OULTON HALL FINANCE LEASE UNLIMITED    
04981459            DE VERE PROCUREMENT LIMITED    
03168241        D    DE VERE PROPERTIES LIMITED    Dissolved
07282870            DE VERE PROPERTIES LIMITED    
06231063            DEVERE PROPERTIES LONDON LTD    
03805282        D    DE VERE PROPERTIES (NORTHERN) LTD    Dissolved
06673015            DEVERE PROPERTIES (UK) LIMITED    
05400990            DEVERE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT LTD    
05563045        D    DEVERE PROPRIETARY TRADING LIMITED    Dissolved

DOMAIN: DEVERE-GROUP.COM

RSP: Instra Corporation Pty Ltd
URL: http://www.instra.com

created-date: 2009-10-19 14:18:51
updated-date: 2010-07-22 22:09:45
registration-expiration-date: 2015-10-19 14:18:53

owner-organization: deVere Group Limited GmbH
owner-name: Ivan Ciancio
owner-street: SeeWurfel Nr. 2 Geschoss 4 Seefeldstrasse 281
owner-city: Zurich
owner-state:
owner-zip: 8008
owner-country: CH
owner-phone: +41.35621311600
owner-fax: +41.35621311700
owner-email:

deveregroup.co.uk

  Registrant:
      De Vere Group PLC

  Registrant type:
      Unknown

  Registrant's address:
      2100 Daresbury Park
      Daresbury
      Cheshire
      WA4 4BP
      United Kingdom

Or...

Domain name: DEVEREGROUP.COM

Administrative Contact:
  WILLIAMS, G  
  PO BOX 822
  ST HELIER, JERSEY JE4 0TU
  GB
  448703211428
Technical Contact:
  WILLIAMS, G  
  PO BOX 822
  ST HELIER, JERSEY JE4 0TU
  GB
  448703211428

Registrant:
deVere Group Limited GmbH
SeeWurfel Nr. 2 Geschoss 4 Seefeldstrasse 281
Zurich, NA 8008
MT

Domain name: DEVEREANDPARTNERS.COM

Administrative Contact:
  Ciancio, Ivan  
  SeeWurfel Nr. 2 Geschoss 4 Seefeldstrasse 281
  Zurich, NA 8008
  MT
  +41.35621311600    Fax: +41.35621311700

Green is CEO of DVP, 05260529 could be the one too
04122390            DEVERE LTD    
03712482        D    DEVERE ALLIANCE LIMITED    Dissolved
03742327            DE VERE & CO SERVICES LIMITED    
06998737            DEVERE AND PARTNERS LTD    
05260529            DEVERE AND PARTNERS (UK) LIMITED    
04290111            DE VERE ASSOCIATES LIMITED

DEVERE AND PARTNERS (UK) LIMITED
3RD FLOOR, 3 DYERS BUILDINGS
HOLBORN
LONDON
EC1N 2PJ
Company No. 05260529

Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 15/10/2004

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
6523 - Other financial intermediation
Accounting Reference Date: 30/11
Last Accounts Made Up To: 30/11/2009  (FULL)
Next Accounts Due: 31/08/2011
Last Return Made Up To: 15/10/2010
Next Return Due: 12/11/2011
Last Members List: 15/10/2010
Previous Names:
Date of change    Previous Name
16/10/2008    SPECIALIST MORTGAGE COMPANY LIMITED


   AR01    03/11/2010     15/10/10 FULL LIST
   
      LATEST SOC       03/11/2010       03/11/10 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 215000
     
   AA    03/10/2010     FULL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/09
   
   AP01    01/10/2010     DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR RICHARD ANDREW BAYLE
   
   TM01    30/09/2010     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR NIGEL GREEN
   
   AD01    18/01/2010     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 18/01/2010 FROM
1-4 PALLADIUM HOUSE ARGYLL STREET
LONDON
W1F 7LD
   
   AR01    12/01/2010     15/10/09 FULL LIST
   
   CH01    12/01/2010     DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / NIGEL GREEN / 04/12/2009
   
   AP04    13/11/2009     CORPORATE SECRETARY APPOINTED SOLAR SECRETARIES LIMITED
   
   AD01    13/11/2009     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 13/11/2009 FROM
CAPITAL PLACE 120 BATH ROAD
HEATHROW
MIDDX
UB3 5AN
   
   TM02    13/11/2009     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY ASK! COMPANY SECRETARIAL LIMITED
   
   AD01    09/11/2009     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/11/2009 FROM
154 ROTHLEY ROAD
MOUNTSORREL
LOUGHBOROUGH
LEICESTERSHIRE
LE12 7JX
   
   288a    11/09/2009     DIRECTOR APPOINTED NIGEL JAMES GREEN
   
   288b    30/07/2009     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR JOHN SCOTT
   
   RES12    13/04/2009     VARYING SHARE RIGHTS AND NAMES
   
   AA    19/03/2009     30/11/08 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
   363a    09/12/2008     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
   
   190    09/12/2008     LOCATION OF DEBENTURE REGISTER
   
   287    09/12/2008     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/12/08 FROM:
GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 09/12/2008 FROM
TEMPERANCE VILLAS 154 ROTHLEY ROAD
MOUNTSORREL
LEICESTERSHIRE
LE12 7JX
   
   353    09/12/2008     LOCATION OF REGISTER OF MEMBERS
   
   288c    09/12/2008     SECRETARY'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ASK! COMPANY SECRETARIAL LIMITED / 01/03/2008
   
   MEM/ARTS    24/10/2008     MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
   
   CERTNM    16/10/2008     COMPANY NAME CHANGED SPECIALIST MORTGAGE COMPANY LIMITED
CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 16/10/08
   
   288b    17/07/2008     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED DIRECTOR PAUL CLARKE
   
   287    11/03/2008     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 11/03/08 FROM:
GISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 11/03/2008 FROM
3 LEICESTER ROAD
ANSTEY
LEICESTERSHIRE
LE7 7AT
   
   AA    06/03/2008     30/11/07 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
   
   363a    20/12/2007     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/07; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
   
   AA    14/09/2007     TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/06
   
   288b    31/01/2007     DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
   288a    18/01/2007     NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
   
   288b    08/01/2007     SECRETARY RESIGNED
   
   363s    07/11/2006     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/06; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
   
   AA    31/07/2006     TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL ACCOUNTS MADE UP TO 30/11/05
   
   225    24/10/2005     ACC. REF. DATE EXTENDED FROM 31/10/05 TO 30/11/05
   
   363s    11/10/2005     RETURN MADE UP TO 15/10/05; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
   
      363(288)       11/10/2005       DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
     
   288c    07/04/2005     DIRECTOR'S PARTICULARS CHANGED
   
   288a    09/11/2004     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
   288a    09/11/2004     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
   288a    09/11/2004     NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED
   
   288a    09/11/2004     NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED
   
   288b    15/10/2004     DIRECTOR RESIGNED
   
   288b    15/10/2004     SECRETARY RESIGNED
   
   NEWINC    15/10/2004     INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION

That's interesting. Judging from the Swiss companies register (http://www.zefix.admin.ch/zfx-cgi/hrform.cgi/ ... dth=366&amt=007), they still have 4 companies registered in Switzerland, i.e. 4 companies with the "Devere" name.

There might be other Swiss companies linked to them. Nigel Green is listed as a partner for United Asset Management, for example. Norbert Buchbinder, listed as a partner/manager for the Devere Group in Switzerland, is listed for a number of other companies (e.g. HABITAT-FIDELITE DE TECHNOLOGIES CONFIANCE GMBH, yellowshark AG, KDK-Immo Sàrl, etc.) though it's not clear whether they have any connection with Devere. A Google search for the person's name plus "site:zefix.admin.ch" turns up the company names. Putting the company name into the Swiss companies' register search box reveals the names of the people involved in the company.

So if they have registered so many companies in the UK, and several companies in Switzerland, maybe even registered sister companies in other names, how many other companies have they registered in other countries? Maybe that's what Old Bloke meant about it being impossible to get to the bottom of the Devere structure.

Even giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming that companies with other names are not connected, it would be interesting to know why Devere needs to register so many companies in its own name. The UK list is pretty big, even discounting the names of unrelated companies, like De Vere Hotels.

Just to emphasise the connection between Devere and United Asset Management: https://www.devere-group.com/fundhouses/UnitedAssetManagement.aspx So Devere sells funds managed by United Asset Management, a company in which Nigel Green is a partner.

Here's a quote from the above Devere page:
"United Asset Management SarL  
 
United Asset Management SarL, a Swiss based fund management company, was founded to structure and implement innovative investment vehicles that use the expertise of range of the worlds best institutional money managers.

United Asset Management SarL harnesses the expertise of award-winning institutional money managers and combines their financial strength and professional excellence to create diversified investment funds that meet the needs of discerning private client investors. UAM SarL works directly with professional intermediaries and does not handle investor funds or manage bespoke client accounts. We concentrate on the design, construction and marketing of the range of funds which are targeted at investors seeking 'absolute returns'. Since our founding, we have built an excellent track record of delivering industry leading returns to our investors. United Asset Management SarL are disciplined and diligent investors focused on maximizing shareholder value. "