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- sheraa replies to sheraaof course.... the longer they take, the more advantage to them, as they will be claiming more money. Any genuine company wouldn't do that.
- Bill replies to The OriginalCall a business in the no longer covered list at the bottom of the ledger, 2nd business in the s section and the very last business. 1 had a claim filed and the other was over the mood but no longer needed service.
You seem to not want to actually look in to it but just take anonymous postings as gospel. If you truly have read my comments you will see I have an opinion both for and against tapa as I do most things.
It does'nt apear they label this site a scam but maybe the intentions of the site owner may be questionable, I do not have any opinion on that as I am not affected and I beleive that there are genuine people here airing complaints, concerns and asking questions.
Being registered on a site does not make you traceable. An email can be set up from anywhere by anyone and accessed from anywhere. TS seem to be very aware of tapa and have made no suggestion they act illegally or that an investigation is underway. Your comments seem very personal and that should not be the use of these forum's unless you have factual evidence that can back up your claims. I said I was not happy with the registration process at the time and stand by that, but I do recognise when changes are made to rectify what many complain about. One useful thing is also to call some of the people they claim to have been to court with and successfully defended cases, they are not a legal entity but seem to help.
Why is it that if people slander a company they are hero's but when objectionably I make factual points to try and help future posters make their own mind up am I suddenly questioned? There are other users on here that for a long time have had great problems and have even said themselves that althoughit was a nightmare they now too are satisfied tapa has changed the problem areas. Are they too disingenuous? You can not go around with personal vandettas getting companies shut down if they are following what the government has old them to change / do, instead be satisfied your original complaints have been recognised and dealt with.
I am puzzled as to why though if you ' have been following this thread since the towards the end of last year and have as yet to find any evidence on the internet that show conclusively that TAPA can provide the service that they claim to be able to' why have you only just posted a comment? There have been many objectional comments before mine yet they remain unchallenged. I have paid them no money nor will I ever so have not been 'defrauded', 'misled' or an other title you give it, but I would like people to be able to see my experience and my opinions that are correct rather than a witch hunt.
I would never post any 'fact' without being able to back it up, how many others can say the same? Have you had a good or bad experience? What is your intention when guiding people away from this site? There are lots of people that have commented on here that are grateful for the help from others, what exactly have you contributed to help people here? - Mike| 1 replyHad a look at the nuisance calls post and it is in fact titled 'whocallsme.com scam forum' and we know that the site is run by TAPA. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
You say this
'One useful thing is also to call some of the people they claim to have been to court with and successfully defended cases, they are not a legal entity but seem to help.' Sorry but how can they go to court if they are not a legal organization (sheraa also brought this up)
My view is that with all the doubts out there about TAPA I would just not want to get involved in any way. My own personal dealings with them where so horrible that I would not recommend them to anyone but if anyone thinks they can help good luck to them and I hope they have a better experience than I had - Bill replies to MikeI agree, I will certainly not be paying for any form of service from them either but again, as changes seem to have been implemented others may well have a better experience.
With regards to the court issue, it seems if you check the court website out that you can have anybody go to court with you in a more support role rather than legal representation.
I had not seen the nuisance calls thread so apologies, interesting reading though on the links. It's remarkable just how little you can trust the internet at all. I think the bottom line here is that if you want to use ANY online service, look in to it thoroughly for yourself and if you can get hard copies of info then do! - Bob Todd| 5 repliesAbbingdon House are a scam. This is why they are being taken to court. If you wish to give a statement and give evidence to get them closed down contact,
Cobbetts LLP
Solicitors
58 Mosley Street
Manchester
M2 3HZ
0845 165 5189- Call type: Telemarketer
- phil142 replies to Bob Todd| 3 repliesWho exactly is taking them to court? i haven't seen a recent reference to them on Who called me apart from your one and I don't think i have seen your name here either.
- Bill replies to Bob ToddThe petition to wind Abingdon House up was entered 11.01.12. This link should explain:
http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/60027/notices/1509599
Funny enough the company is or was allegedly under investigation by tapa.
https://www.theadvertisingprotectionagency.co ... shing-firms.php
Cobbetts is a very large legal practice that has been around for well over 150 years so best of luck to them. I have also asked companies investigation branch to confirm they have had material from tapa as their website suggests so heavily and they are very secretive but gave the impression they are aware of them in an unlinked capacity other than receiving information from them. Scambusters in trading standards in Liverpool speak quite highly of them also.
F.A.O. The Original, did you have the chance to check that information about tapa taking a client to court or people that were registered as businesses and cancelled but were happy with them? You have gone quiet so I would assume you did not expect me to back my comments up and feel a little silly or indeed was a publishing scam stirring things up? The jury is still out and my experience was not good and I will stand by previous comments that I will never use or pay tapa but in the vein of freedom of speech you can't simply ignore the fact that a lot seems to have been done by them to clean up their act and I think also this forum is a good measure of that. There seem's to be much less anger and far fewer posts about them. - tapa| 1 replyScam 100%
Beware of smooth talking men - Bill replies to tapaAny chance you could expand on that statement? You say you are "tapa" and call something a "SCAM 100%" but not what it is that is the scam. Also to "BEWARE OF SMOOTH TALKING MEN". Have I missed something here?
- SAY NO TO TAPA| 3 repliesDo not sign up to Tapa they are themselves a publishing company trying to corner the market.
- Caller: TAPA
- Call type: Non-profit organization
- Bill replies to SAY NO TO TAPA| 2 repliesDo you mean that you have done an advert with them? Have any posts been removed recently as I am not sure what you mean by that? I have read most the website and did not recollect seeing any offers of advertising in publications or on their site. I think the suggestion in the past when similar comments like yours have been posted is that it is something to do with rogue traders rather than a genuine post so it's best you post more info or evidence so you to are not accused / confused with the crook's.
- phil142 replies to Bill| 1 replyHi Bill! i was also puzzled by this. I don't think any messages have been removed. I check it from time to time and I also wondered what was meant here.
- TAPA| 1 replyTAPA is owned and ran by a banned director who operates numerous advertising companies as well as tapa, bill I believe you are an employee of TAPA trying to make them seem good when you know there on the verge of being Shut down by trading standards
- Caller: asdf
- phil142 replies to TAPAYour claim about TAPA is simply one which many have made before you but, as in previous cases, you say nothing to substantiate it. Bill isn't trying to make them sound good. He has simply said that there is no point making allegations which you cannot personally prove. When TS helped me recently with my TAPA complaint, they were not prepared to make any statements about TAPA charity activities.
- Mike and others| 1 replyPhil I have to disagree with you as I find Bill's posts more and more supportive of TAPA as he gets more confident. His tactic seems to follow their methods that I have seen in the past and i know that he isn't the Bill that was posting here a few months ago. I was especially dubious of his attempts to frighten people into thinking TAPA have actually taken people to court for non payment a typical tactic of theirs
The only place that you can be fairly sure that you are getting an accurate picture of them is here
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthrea ... 3327f&t=3611601
TAPA have never responded to any of my communications even those sent by registered mail (4 of them)
If not a scam they are terrible to deal with, rude and incapable of running a decent business- Caller: v8y8
- phil142 replies to Mike and othersDo you mean that this Bill is a completely different person using the same name or just that he has changed his approach/tactics?
I had the same response (or lack of it) from TAPA as you have and I don't want anything to do with them. I was also threatened with court by TAPA. However when TS helped me they refused to make any comments about TAPA activities such as charity scams. I am familiar with the MSE discussion and have contributed to it (different name). However that was shut down for some time last October because contributors could not prove the accuracy of their claims. - Mike| 9 repliesHi Phil
I know that this Bill isn’t the one who was posting a while ago as I have been in contact with him through private message on the MSE site.
As to the original thread on TAPA being taken down by MSE this happened at about the same time as a whole series of threats were being made on this site. There was serious sexual harassment, threats of physical violence, threats of installing malware on our computers, one poster had her personal details revealed and so on. The moderators have removed most of these messages as they were extremely offensive but I do have copies of the pages before this was done. These are hardly the actions of a reputable and legitimate organisation. When the thread was closed on the MSE forum I sent my evidence to them ad they were interested but said they to had been threatened by TAPA and thought it best to close the thread but since the ASA ruling against them they have allowed the thread that was initiated by LizzieM to run as it now doesn’t contain some of the more extreme claims and would seem to be used by people having genuine problems and recounting their experiences. As I have said before I really fail to see what TAPA can actually do for you that you can’t do yourself for free and this would seem to be the opinion of may others - Bill replies to Mike| 7 repliesI have been posting for a few months. I am not the same Bill from previous to that period nor have I laid claim to said posts. I am mesmerized that as having an opinion now qualifies me to be a tapa employee. Have you read my posts? I have said I had a bad experience, I said I will not use their service or pay them any money. I simply refuse to go on a witch hunt when it's clear as a result of the asa ruling they have changed their site, that is evidenced by the fact the site is different. Trading Standards will not confirm or deny an investigation as they are not allowed to but very strongly suggest there is not one going on. I have posted what I have been told and who has said it so they can check that information is correct and true. I have said about people who are/were with tapa that have told me of their experiences and said who they are so, again, they can be contacted to confirm what I have said. One thing I have been taught after my experience and reading this full thread is not to make remarks without being able to back it up. There does not seem to be anybody that has been taken to court that is not a business which I have made clear in previous posts so please do not accuse me of frightening people. In my opinion a scam is something that is run with intention on obtaining money by clear and intentional deception. Tapa did not make their site clear enough and when reprimanded made changes so I am reluctant to label it a scam. The posts removed that you mention I have not seen as they were not here when I found this site so cannot comment about the content but you are right that the threats etc are unprofessional and not the act of a legitimate company which begs the question, why commit commercial suicide by doing that? Was it tapa or someone pretending to be them? Without evidence your comments seem biased and that of somebody with a vendetta rather than wanting to be helpful. I will probably not post again as it's clear that comments such as mine that provide information to back up my comments is not welcome on here which concerns me a great deal as that is what I thought these type of forum's are for and am quite insulted to find that I know have to defend myself.
- phil142 replies to MikeHi Mike
I was also in correspondence with LizzieM and also contacted MSE when they blocked it first time round. I am now fully aware that TAPA can't help me at all but i got caught up with them when I was being harassed by a kitchen firm in manchester. I had only requested a brochure and they then started ringing me 4-5 times a day on both my landline and mobile. My comments about not making statements about TAPA charity scams unless you have personal experience stem from the email which the MSE sent me at the time to say that I mustn't say anything about TAPA unless I could prove it. I had not made any extreme comments myself at all but did see those which were made. I was in touch with LizzieM at the time (private email as well as on MSE). - phil142 replies to Bill| 6 repliesBill: I was very surprised about Mike's claims about you. I had no reason to think that.
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