800-555-5160

OK FOLKS ! Listen to this tale(true) about a company named AMS !

AMS address is 3724 Old Denton. Rd., Carrolton, Texas 75007 and Phone number is 1-800-555-5160
Call and say ByeBye to Robert, Michelle, Ashley and the other people that work there before they go to the Pokey. AMS is calling people saying they work for a certain Warrant Enforcement Division for a certain City because you have UNPAID TICKETS, then they ask you for your CIF NUMBER or name and drivers license number, don't give them information, just call the police department for the city they say they are collecting for and file chatges on them for telephone harrassment, then they will have to appear in court for those charges.

File a complaint with the FTC and use the FDCPA and you can win in a court of law.

If they say what city they are working for, just contact that city's warrant collection manager to verify that you don't have any unpaid tickets at all, that's all you need to do to verify, you are clear.

City of Euless Court Manager is Taresa Alexander and her clerk is named Claudia they work at the
City of Euless Municipal Court, 1102 west Euless Blvd, Euless, Texas 76040 Ph# 817-685-1498

The city sold our private information to AMS for money and AMS gets to keep all the money they can collect on because they already paid the cities for the data.

Call the local police on theese people and don't play, press charges on them ! Call Now because in a few days they will be in custody on their way to the Pokey ! THIS IS ALL THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO DO !

AMERICAN MUNICIPAL SERVICES CORPORATION

WE PURCHASE THE IDENTITIES OF PUBLIC CITIZENS AND THEN TRY TO GET THEM TO SEND US MONEY FOR TRAFFIC CITATIONS THAT THEY DON'T OWE OR THEY PAID OFF YEARS AGO.

WE DARE YOU TO TRY TO SHUT US DOWN OR PUT US IN JAIL ! WE ARE THE UNTOUCHABLES !

There is no ticket or information that is bought. Everything is still "owned' by the city. They helped me with my citation from 5 years ago that I forgot about. I paid it to the city in payments. If it was a scam why would I send my payments to the city? I'm really confused as to why this blog even exists other then the pure fact that people get mad because they didn't take care of their tickets and then numerous years later they are brought up and can't pay.

I recently got a Letter, not a call from a Municipal Enforcement Division "city of midlothian" saying we owe 400$ and says " there are warrents issued oredering your arrest." we arent sure if this is real,  can someone tell me if its real?

you should probably call the city and see, that would be a good place to start

It's not a scam. When I owed money to my city court they personally gave this number to me to pay off my tickets. Learn the facts before taking crap.

this woman keeps calling and says I owe over 300.00 dollars to Hinds county Ms. and in a letter stated that a warrant was issued for my arrest, that I need to take care of this matter now!!! Only two things.... they want me to send the money to them in Carrolton, Texas, and Hinds county Ms. don't know anything about it! If I owe someone I pay my debt like a GOOD TEXAS, RETIRED MARINE!!!! I MAY BE DISABLE FROM WONDS RECIVED IN VIETNAM, BUT I CAN ALSO GET MARINE CORPS MEAN IF PEOPLE KEEP MESSING WITH ME!! HAVE A GREAT LIFE:)

Just got a letter in the mail from Town of Newellton Municipal court which is in Louisiana. They requested that I send my $170.00 fine to same PO Box 118312, Carrollton TX. I've lived in Atlanta GA for over 15 years. The more I looked at this letter the more I wanted to research. This has to be a scam. Never had a ticket in Louisiana or Texas! Won't be sending any monies. But will file a complaint! Will also call 800-555-5160 to see what the people tell me! This is comical!!!

Same thing to me I had one from city of midlothan

I RECIEVED A LETTER FROM WARRANT ENFORCEMENT DIVISION ON7/12/13 SAYING I OWE $109.20 TO THE CITY OF PHENIX CITY IN CARROLLTON TEXAS I'VE NEVER BEEN TO TEXAS PHENIX CITY IS 5 MIND AWAY FROM ME. I CALL THIS 800-555-5160 AND IT IS NO LONGET IN SERVICE DO CAN SOMEONE GELL ME WHAYS GOING ON. IS IT A SCAM EMAIL AT LADENSON@HOTMAIL.COM THANKS LATOYA OH I LIVE IN GEORGIA

I have been contacted for the past year about being locked uo over this cr@p but i have been pulled over in mississippi and didnt get a ticket but the cop said slow down , guess where it was ? flora, Ms where they say i got the ticket . i showed the cop the paper . i keep it in my console , he looked at me and said if you have 700 dollars to throw away just give it to me , the cop in the town said it was b.s. so there you go !!!!!!!!!!!! its bull s$%t

I just got a letter from the same place what is going on with these people

Called them today said I had a public intox charge from 2006 never been arrested for that, don't know what's going on

FOR THE FINAL TIME, TICKETS OR CITY FINES DO *****NOT***** FALL UNDER FDCPA LAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EXAMPLE IS BELOW


GULLEY v. MARKOFF KRASNY



Victor GULLEY, Plaintiff–Appellant, v. MARKOFF & KRASNY, an Illinois Partnership, Defendant–Appellee.



No. 11–2104.

-- December 22, 2011
Before FLAUM, KANNE, and SYKES, Circuit Judges.

Victor Gulley, Chicago, IL, pro se.Stacie E. Barhorst, Attorney, Barhorst & Associates, P.C., Chicago, IL, for Defendant–Appellee.

Victor Gulley appeals the dismissal of his lawsuit against Markoff & Krasny, a debt-collection law firm, for alleged violations of the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1692–1692p, which protects consumers against harassment and unfair collection methods.   Because we agree with the district court that the alleged debts at issue in this case are not “debts” as defined by the FDCPA, id. § 1692a(5), we affirm the judgment.

In his amended complaint, Gulley explains that in 2008 the City of Chicago levied against him four separate fines arising from a parcel of real estate that he no longer owned.   When he did not pay those fines, the City retained Markoff & Krasny to collect.   Gulley asserts that he is a “consumer” under the FDCPA, see 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(3), and that Markoff & Krasny, in trying to collect the unpaid fines, violated the statute by misrepresenting the total amount he owed, failing to validate the alleged debts as requested, communicating with him after being told to stop, and generally harassing him, see id. §§ 1692c-g.   Markoff & Krasny moved to dismiss the amended complaint on the ground that it fails to state a claim.   See Fed.R.Civ.P. 12(b)(6).   The law firm argued primarily that, under the FDCPA, Gulley is not a “consumer” and the unpaid fines the firm was trying to collect are not “debts.”   See 15 U.S.C. § 1692a(3), (5).

The district court agreed with Markoff & Krasny that fines are not “debts” covered by the FDCPA.   For purposes of the statute, a “debt” can arise only from a “transaction in which money, property, insurance, or services which are the subject of the transaction are primarily for personal, family, or household purposes.”  15 U.S.C. § 1692a(5).   The amounts Gulley owed, the court noted, were for nonconsensual fines attributable to violations of the Chicago Municipal Code. The court reasoned that a fine is a penalty imposed for breaking the law—not the result of a consensual transaction—so, under the plain wording of the FDCPA, Gulley's amended complaint fails to state a claim.

On appeal Gulley argues that the district court erred by failing to analyze whether Markoff & Krasny complied with § 1692g, which concerns the method by which debt collectors must validate disputed debts.   But Gulley does not challenge the court's conclusion that the municipal fines at issue are not “debts” under the FDCPA.   And if the law firm did not try to collect a “debt,” then its collection activity could not have violated § 1692g or any other provision of the FDCPA.

 Our analysis of the FDCPA must begin with the text of the statute, McMillan v. Collection Prof'ls, Inc., 455 F.3d 754, 762 (7th Cir.2006).   The text, as we read § 1692a(5), defines “debt” in a manner that necessarily excludes fines from coverage.   Our reading is shared by the Federal Trade Commission, which “holds some interpretative and enforcement authority with respect to the FDCPA,” Carter v. AMC, LLC, 645 F.3d 840, 843 (7th Cir.2011).   See 15 U.S.C. §§ 1692k(e), 1692l, 1692o. That agency has interpreted the FDCPA to exclude fines from the definition of “debt.”   See Statements of General Policy or Interpretation Staff Commentary on the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, 53 Fed.Reg. 50,097, 50,102 (Dec. 13, 1988).   The agency's commentary “is based primarily on issues discussed in informal staff letters responding to public requests for interpretations and on the Commission's enforcement program,” id. at 50,101, and does not receive Chevron deference, see United States v. Mead Corp., 533 U.S. 218, 234, 121 S.Ct. 2164, 150 L.Ed.2d 292 (2001).   But the commentary is entitled to “respectful consideration.”  Carter, 645 F.3d at 844.

Apparently the question whether fines are “debts” under the FDCPA has never arisen in a court of appeals (at least not in a precedential decision).   Yet that issue has come up frequently in the district courts, which have concluded uniformly that a fine does not stem from a consensual transaction and thus is not a debt under the FDCPA.   See Reid v. Am. Traffic Solutions, Inc., Nos. 10–cv–204–JPG–DGW & 10–cv–269–JPG, 2010 WL 5289108, at *4–5 (S.D.Ill. Dec. 20, 2010) (concluding that fines for traffic violations are not debts under FDCPA);  Mills v. City of Springfield, Mo., No. 2:10–CV–04036–NKL, 2010 WL 3526208, at *15–16 (W.D.Mo. Sept. 3, 2010) (same);  Durso v. Summer Brook Preserve Homeowners Ass'n, 641 F.Supp.2d 1256, 1264–65 (M.D.Fla.2008) (concluding that fines assessed against homeowner by homeowners association did not create debts under FDCPA);  Shannon v. ACS State & Local Solutions, Inc., No. 08–594(DSD/SRN), 2008 WL 2277814, at *1 (D.Minn. May 30, 2008) (holding that fines levied by county for parking violation and failure to register vehicle did not meet criteria for FDCPA debts);  Williams v. Redflex Traffic Sys., Inc., No. 3:06–cv–400, 2008 WL 782540, at *5 (E.D.Tenn. Mar. 20, 2008) (holding that unpaid traffic fine is not debt under FDCPA), aff'd on other grounds, 582 F.3d 617 (6th Cir.2009);  Yon v. Alliance One Receivables Mgmt., Inc., No. 07–61362–Civ, 2007 WL 4287628, at *1 (S.D.Fla. Dec. 5, 2007) (same);  Harper v. Collection Bureau of Walla Walla, Inc., No. C06–1605–JCC, 2007 WL 4287293, at *7 (W.D.Wash. Dec. 4, 2007) (same);  Graham v. ACS State & Local Solutions, Inc., No. 0:06–cv–2708–JNE/JJG, 2006 WL 2911780, at *2 (D.Minn. Oct. 10, 2006) (concluding that unpaid parking tickets do not qualify as debts under FDCPA);  Riebe v. Juergensmeyer & Assocs., 979 F.Supp. 1218, 1221–22 (N.D.Ill.1997) (concluding that unpaid fine imposed for overdue library book is not debt under FDCPA).   We agree with these decisions and, as did the district court, conclude that the municipal fines levied against Gulley cannot reasonably be understood as “debts” arising from consensual consumer transactions for goods and services.   Accordingly, the allegations in his amended complaint state no claim under the FDCPA and were properly dismissed under Rule 12(b)(6).

Affirmed.

PER CURIAM.

I received a letter today 8/31 from address 11063 S. Memorial Dr. 460 Tulsa, Ok. Telling me that a warrant had been issued for my arrest in Nichols Hills, Ok. from supposed charges from 2 different case #'s from 2001. Said that I owed $305.00. and needed to send the payment to P.O. Box 118312 Carrollton, TX.
I went online to both police departments in both cities and checked for any wants & warrants and found I have NONE in OKC, any where in Oklahoma OR Texas. I'll be taking this letter down to the post office on Tuesday morning and turning this letter in to the post master. I'm glad I did the research on it I did before calling or sending any monies to them.

Sorry to say, but you're dead wrong. I wasen't in Oklahoma in 2001. My stuff that I got in OK. had been paid in 1997. Can't say I don't pay my fines or my tickets because if I didn't, I wouldn't have my Drivers License here in Colorado. This is mail fraud at it's worst. I checked with both cities and they verified that I had no wants/warrants in OK. or TX. And both cities said that they DON'T issue warrants to out of state residents unless they have actual charges pending in that city/state. Which I don't. They also said that they don't use collection agencies to collect moneys owed to the courts. They send you an official statement with the court seal on it telling you what and how much to pay each time you send in a payment.
This letter had NO state seal on it, and it gave 2 different addresses one in Tulsa where it was mailed from and one for Carrollton, TX. where it said I was to send the money. And as for the city I supposedly owed, well, the city of Nichols Hills isen't in Texas, it's Oklahoma.

RECEIVE THIS LETTER OVA THE WEEKEND....R U KIDDING ME ...I HAVE BEEN THRU THE CITY OF FLORA IN MISSISSIPPI BUT I DONT OWE THEM ANYTHING ....THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCAM....I'M NOT GOING 2 RESPOND...

The reason the letter has no seal on it, is because they are a 3rd party. They are not the city nor the state. They are a 3rd party who works on BEHALF of the city, they are contracted with them. They are located in Carrollton, TX and work for several hundred cities in 6 different states. They have a mailing location in Tulsa. Maybe you should do a little bit more research about who they REALLY are rather than believing everything that you read online.

Also, did you ever contact the city of Nichols Hills, OK? The city that is actually in question? That might be a good place to start.

This company has sent me a few Letters saying There may be a warrant out for my arrest if didn't  pay xx amount.  so, I called the courthouse myself and they said the same thing.  They said its from a theft in 2005 in Texas!!  What???  first of all they have my maiden name and 2nd, I can assure you, I was not in Texas in 2005 or any other time.  I'm from Massachusetts.!!   They verified my birthdate and said I needed to pay?  I told them, You have the wrong person!  they said, I needed to file identity theft.  In addition, I need to send the Judge a letter stating that this person they're looking for is not me.  They also said I need to send a copy of my drivers license!  I am not sending anyone anything!!  I'm so pissed off and don't know what to do or who to believe!  Please help!