01427858331

See!
They do customer services right here another...
You may not have to go down there at all, although beside manner and advice isn't really up to the high quality training they claim to aspire to.

Take the course again 'the the', before you get something like life ..|..

+d

The people who ran the office at Minster "Legal",Andrew Young and Martin Smith, now run Express Law.We had the same problem at Minster,no one would answer the phone so we eventually had to go there as nothing was being done.I suggest that you do the same.If you feel that you are likely to lose your temper take someone else with you.
Express Law are working under the "umbrella" of Society of Will Writers so contact Brian McMillan of SWW and I would also suggest that you contact your MP,Trading Standards and the Police.

Good Luck.

yes i agree with all you said bout havin to go to the office, cos otherwise everytime u ring you will be told that the person you need to speak to is out or in "meeting"!! which is a load of poo. They will never ring you back as andrew young and martin smith are 2 of the biggest con men going!!! get down to the office with the police and get what is owed to you     good luck!

Following my previous message,get in touch with your local press.Any publicity of this sort is bad publicity and your local press may contact Express Law's local paper.You may also be able to get some help from wewillgivefreeadvice@hotmail.co.uk

Good luck and tell all your friends about your problem.

So Gerry Barton has resurfaced again. I was ripped off together with over 2000 others by his National Legal Services who were based in York and Sheffield and were closed in 2007 by the DTI.  Barton was banned from being a director for 11 years. Martin Smith and Jonty Trotter worked for Barton and many of the people who worked for Barton set up legal services and will writting businesses. Dovedon who I believe are now called Collective Legal Solutions are based in the same Sheffield building and the directors worked for Barton.

His Daughter Niki married a man called William Green and they were living in the Lincoln area. I wonder if she knows where Gerry is. I tracked Gerry down to Alperley Bridge near Bradford about 3 years ago but I didn't manage to speak to him.  He may have spent a short period in prison for contempt of court whilst NLS was being wound up. Gerry once lived at Glentham near Market Raisen and  seems to have strong connections with Lincolnshire. I'm sure he will turn up again when things quieten down.

There was a network of ex-NLS franchisees who were monitoring the Companies set up by Barton's lot and I seem to remember that Martin Smith and Jonty Trotter set up a business in York which the DTI closed down but hey keep resurfacing under a different names.

I'm off work ill at the moment and did what I do every few months typed Gerald Malcom Barton in to Goggle and came across this site. As I said in one of my previous posts  I was an NLS franchise holder  and have a healthy interest in Barton and the activities of the people who worked with and for him.

I spent a good deal of time yesterday reading all the pages and could smile at the fact that Barton is up to his con man tricks again. NLS took at least £14 million in franchise fees. There were people who were losing their homes because of him. I was lucky I was able keep mine,  just,  but there was nearly a divorce at my house.

The people who work for him are using the same tactics they used against the web sites set up by ex-NLS agents. The style which they write is consistant with what we had posted on our sites.

Trotter and a number of other people who worked with or for Barton set up will writting Companies. From what I have read on here some of them are using the same business plan and telling the same old lies.

Bartons daughter, Niki worked for him at York and she told me at my interview that NLS owned a golf course at Bridlington. Gerry wasn't listed as a shareholder but Niki was listed as one of the two share holders. She claimed to be a successful agent but was a recruiter like Jonty Trotter.

I was just about to take them to Court when the DTI closed them down. I had asked them for my money back and was given the run around by Chris Dingley who was allegedly a business development manager.. If  you read this Chris don't bother with threats of legal action I kept all the letters and e mails and would love to see you in court.

I did manage to save at least 3 people £7k each who were thinking about joining NLS.

I have been searching for a picture of Gerry for sometime and I was pleased to find a link to a picture of the man. I know now who to ask where the  £7000 he took from me went.

Keep up the good work KW.

Hi Death Angel

I see Gerry Barton has surfaced again. |

A word of warning to Barton and his Associates. We are on your case again.

There are some very angry ex-NLS agents out here who you scammed and we are not happy to find you are up to your old tricks again.

We are not happy with some of the vailed threats which have been made against the people who have exposed you for what you are. This had better stop, just that.

V

To all Readers, updates on Companies House with regards to Express Law Ltd in Armthorpe, Doncaster:

AR01     07/09/2011     24/08/11 FULL LIST
  LATEST SOC     07/09/2011      07/09/11 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 100
  ANNOTATION   04/01/2012     Clarification

AA01     14/12/2011     CURREXT FROM 31/08/2011 TO 31/01/2012

RP04      04/01/2012     SECOND FILING WITH MUD 24/08/11 FOR FORM AR01

TM02     19/01/2012     APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY JOHN TROTTER

AD01     19/01/2012     REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 19/01/2012 FROM
                                 UNIT 1 WEST MOOR NETWORK CENTRE YORKSHIRE WAY,
                                 ARMTHORPE, DONCASTER, SOUTH YORKSHIRE, DN3 3GW
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/e812fdf599e ... cprodorder?ft=1

The Second Filing With Mud was a change of current Shareholders within the company. Previously Martin Smith & Andrew Young had 50 shares each, totalling £50 each. Now the Shareholders are as follows:

Shareholders Name          Class of Share     Number of Shares
Martin Smith                        Ordinary                   28
Andrew Young                     Ordinary                   28
The Express Law Trust         Ordinary                   28  ?
George Alexander                Ordinary                   16  ?

We wonder who the Beneficiaries of The Express Law Trust would be?

Their address changed from:  
UNIT 1 WEST MOOR NETWORK CENTRE YORKSHIRE WAY
ARMTHORPE
DONCASTER
SOUTH YORKSHIRE
DN3 3GW

to

1 WEST MOOR PARK
NETWORKCENTRE, ARMTHORPE
DONCASTER
STH YORKSHIRE
ENGLAND
DN3 3GW

One only wonders why they would have done this?

Thankyou for reading.

KW

To all Readers, an update on the Consultants working for Express Law Ltd based in Doncaster:

--Jerry Carrington - who made a sale on Wednesday the 18th January 2012 - Mr & Mrs G - £3035
(By going to a Reputable Solicitor or a Professional Will Writer regulated by the IPW products of the same nature should only cost, on average, £500. As stated by BBC One's Rip Off Britain)
--Jasmine Duncan
--Mark Fisher
--Kevin (Kev) Fothergill
--R Foster
--S Gibb
--M Harris
--Andrew Hesketh
--Paul Hunt
--Michelle (Shelly) Jacklin
--Alisha Leanne Louise Lewis
--Aubrey O'Brien
--Geoff Olden
--Kevin Palmer
--Sam Passi
--Mick Poucher
--Bill Trahair

If anyone has any further details, please feel free to e-mail us at wewillgivefreeadvice@hotmail.co.uk. Rest assured your identity will not be compromised.

Thankyou for reading.

KW

Kingsgate Legal Assistance quay road Bridlington

Phil Hancock former NLA employee operating under wifes name Esther Miller I think she is a pro blues or jazz singer. her name on everything he is behind it. maybe Gerry B is funding it. OLD NLA salesman Graham sutcliff is working for him and joy bell is doing the work as far as i know
think bgerry and phil worked togethr at the golf club in bridlington

same people different name

if you are doing the deed and making people aware do it KW

seems like barton spawned quite a following  
good luck kW

Heres another one Thankyou for your comments.

******Here are the company details for Kingsgate:

KINGSGATE LEGAL ASSISTANCE LIMITED
Registered Address: Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, UK, YO16 4LZ
Trading Address: 18 Quay Road, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO15 2AP

Company No. 07760082
Status: Active
Date of Incorporation: 02/09/2011
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC): None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 30/09
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 02/06/2013
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 30/09/2012

Previous Names:
Date of Change         Previous Name
05/09/2011               Kingston Legal Assistance Limited
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/335c48acbf8 ... 499/compdetails

CERTNM     05/09/2011     Company Name Changed Kingston Legal Assistance Limited Certificate
                                       Issued on 05/09/2011
          RES15     05/09/2011     Change of Name 02/09/2011
          NM01       05/09/2011     Notice of change of name by resolution
NEWINC     02/09/2011     Certificate of Incorporation – General Company Details & Statement of;
                                      Officers, Capital & Shareholdings, Guarantee, Compliance – Memorandum
                                      of Association – Articles of Association
      LATEST SOC     02/09/2011     02/09/11 Statement of Capital; GBP 1
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/335c48acbf8 ... cprodorder?ft=1

******Here is their website details:

Their website is http://kingsgatelegalassistance.co.uk/  and http://klaltd.co.uk 

Domain name: kingsgatelegalassistance.co.uk
Registrant: Kings Gate
Registrant type: UK Individual
Registrant's address: The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service.
Registrar: 1 & 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND] URL: http://www.1and1.co.uk or http://registrar.1und1.info
Relevant dates: Registered on: 02-Nov-2011 Renewal date: 02-Nov-2013 Last updated: 03-Nov-2011
Registration status: Registered until renewal date.
Name servers: ns67.1and1.co.uk ns68.1and1.co.uk
http://whois.domaintools.com/kingsgatelegalassistance.co.uk
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Domain name: klaltd.co.uk
Registrant: Kings Gate
Registrant type: UK Individual
Registrant's address: The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service.
Registrar: 1& 1 Internet AG [Tag = SCHLUND] URL: http://www.1and1.co.uk or http://registrar.1und1.info 
Relevant dates: Registered on: 13-Sep-2011 Renewal date: 13-Sep-2013 Last updated: 13-Sep-2011
Registration status: Registered until renewal date.
Name servers: ns67.1and1.co.uk ns68.1and1.co.uk
http://whois.domaintools.com/klaltd.co.uk

******Here are the Director details:

Mrs Esther Miller   DOB: 12 Apr 1968   South African
18 Quay Road, Bridlington, East Riding Of Yorkshire, United Kingdom, YO15 2AP
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... her&postalarea=
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Mrs Esther Miller   DOB: 12 Apr 1968   South African
95 Kingsgate, Bridlington, East Riding Of Yorkshire YO15 3NQ

TRISTAN RECORDS LIMITED 05794288 Incorporated 25 Apr 2006 *Live*
Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ

TRISTAN RECORDS LIMITED 05794288 Incorporated 25 Apr 2006 *Live*
Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ

KINGSGATE LEGAL ASSISTANCE LIMITED 07760082 Incorporated 02 Sep 2011 *Live*
Medina House 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D11237437

******Here is who she has connections with:

Mr Philip Michael Hancock   DOB: 05 Jul 1946   British
Apartment 10 Anchor Point, 25-27 St Annes Road, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO15 2JB

AMAZING GLAZING LIMITED 02184768 Incorporated 28 Oct 1987 *Liquidation* Resigned
198 North Sea Lane, Humberston, Grimsby, DN36 4EP

AMAZING GLAZING (GRIMSBY) LIMITED 02405933 Incorporated 19 Jul 1989 *Dissolved 94*
198 North Sea Lane, Humberston, Grimsby, DN36 4EP

AMAZING GLAZING (SCUNTHORPE) LIMITED 02418391 Incorporated 31 Aug 1989 *Dissolved 93*
198 North Sea Lane, Humberston, Grimsby

SWIFT WINDOWS GRIMSBY LIMITED 02474100 Incorporated 26 Feb 1990 *Dissolved 11*
Unit 7L Estate Road No 6, Sth Humberside Industrial Estate, Grimsby, DN31 2TC

SWIFT WINDOWS GRIMSBY LIMITED 02474100 Incorporated 26 Feb 1990 *Dissolved 11*
Unit 7L Estate Road No 6, Sth Humberside Industrial Estate, Grimsby, DN31 2TC

BRIDLINGTON LINKS LIMITED 03022661 Incorporated 16 Feb 1995 *Dissolved 10*
Dte House Hollins Mount, Bury, Lancashire BL9 8AT

HERITAGE PARK (BRIDLINGTON) LIMITED 04756711 Incorporated 07 May 2003 *Dissolved 09*
Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ

TRISTAN RECORDS LIMITED 05794288 Incorporated 25 Apr 2006 *Live* Resigned
Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ

TRISTAN RECORDS LIMITED 05794288 Incorporated 25 Apr 2006 *Live* Resigned
Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ

CLEAN + CLEAN DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS LIMITED 05828372 Incorporated 25 May 2006
*Dissolved 10* Resigned
Medina House, 2 Station Avenue, Bridlington, East Yorkshire, YO16 4LZ
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D08984796

If anyone has any further information about this company or feel that they have been treated unfairly by them, please feel free to contact us at wewillgivefreeadvice@hotmail.co.uk. Rest assured your identity will not be compromised.

Thankyou for reading.

KW

To all Readers some advice from the Trading Standards
http://www.qualitysolicitors.com/dnp-nt0001fcc6.html

Will Writers, Cold Calling & Unregulated Legal Services
North Lincolnshire Council Trading Standards have issued a press release warning people about unscrupulous companies preying on the concerns over the cost of personal care in old age. These companies are cold calling on the elderly and vulnerable, frightening them into believing all their assets will be used to pay for their care.

North Lincolnshire Council Trading Standards warn:

“ be wary of adverts and cold callers selling will writing services.

A number of people in North Lincolnshire have reported being conned in recent months into parting with hundreds of pounds.
These companies use underhand tactics to persuade those they have frightened into using their services by offering free advice to avoid the sale of their assets to pay for their care.
Trading Standards go on in their press release saying:
“The cold callers promise people cut price wills, storage of wills, lasting power of attorney and property trusts that turn out to be anything but.”

The free advice that the companies offer is not free, once involved with them the client finds they are agreeing to pay for documents to be produced. People reporting these companies to Trading Standards have reported that:

“... the costs of the services offered can quickly spiral into hundreds of pounds and they often insist on being paid there and then.”

A more alarming aspect of these companies is that these uninvited representatives are asking for, and in some cases taking away with them and not returning them, original documents such as birth certificates. These documents are hard to replace and in this age of identity fraud opens up the client to all manner of fraudulent use of their identity.
Many of these companies insist on payment immediately, before the promised documents are produced. Trading Standards again report that:

“People who have parted with their money might never receive the legal papers promised to them.

Those that do can find that the document supplied is not worth the paper it is written on.”
Trading Standards offer these words of advice that all consumers have when buying anything from a salespersons calling at their homes:-
• All agreements have a seven day cooling off period
• Legitimate businesses will have paperwork that identifies the company and details of the cooling off period.
• If you are in any doubt, do not agree to any offers
• Do not hand over any money there and then.

If you are considering writing a Will, there are many options for consideration. Many people have access to free legal advice through insurance companies, trade unions and organisations such as Age UK. Will Writing Companies are not Solicitors, they are not regulated by the Law Society, so you have few safeguards if anything goes wrong.

Thankyou for reading.

KW

We had a visit last week from Kevin (call me Kev) Fothergill after a cold call offering advice on avoiding care home charges. He told us a "Bespoke Asset Trust" would be our best plan costing £3000.00 and he could set it up during his visit but would need a cheque. When asked why payment was not on completion he said they would have costs for land registry fees etc. He was unwilling to leave any paperwork and told us to check their Web site.
So beware Express Law is working the Hull area.

Another lucky escape Thankyou for your comments and the details regarding your experience. May we ask what persuaded you to go ahead with the initial appointment with Express Law of Doncaster, as this may help others when deciding to go ahead or not.

Thankyou for reading.

KW

We can fight back at these scammers by using the power of the internet.

Football Club forums and community sites are idea to get the word out.

Doncaster, Hull, Scunthorpe  football Club supporters forums who be good starting points.

To all Readers, a re-cap on Mr Andrew Young's Directorships (most recent first & pay attention to DOB's):

Mr Andrew Young     DOB: 01 Jan 1980     British
9 Waggoners Close, Gainsborough, Lincs, United Kingdom, DN21 3RJ

EXPRESS LAW LTD 07355828 Incorporated 24 Aug 2010 *Live* Resigned
1 West Moor Park, Networkcentre, Armthorpe, Doncaster, Sth Yorkshire DN3 3GW

EXPRESS LEGAL SOLUTIONS LTD 07355848 Incorporated 24 Aug 2010 *Live*
1 West Moor Park Networkcentre, Armthorpe, Doncaster, Sth Yorkshire DN3 3GW

COUNTRYWIDE LAW LTD 07356657 Incorporated 25 Aug 2010 *Live*
25 Steep Hill, Lincoln, Lincs LN2 1LU
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D15365207
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: Not Known  
9 Waggoners Close, Gainsborough, Lincs, United Kingdom, DN21 3RJ

COUNTRYWIDE LAW LTD 07356657 Incorporated 25 Aug 2010 *Live*
25 Steep Hill, Lincoln, Lincs LN2 1LU
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D15367081
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: Not Known  
9 Waggoners Close, Gainsborough, Lincs, United Kingdom, DN21 3RJ

EXPRESS LAW LTD 07355828 Incorporated 24 Aug 2010 *Live* Resigned
1 West Moor Park, Networkcentre, Armthorpe, Doncaster, Sth Yorkshire DN3 3GW
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D15424136
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: 16 Feb 1974     British  
9 Waggoners Close, Gainsborough, Lincs, United Kingdom, DN21 3RJ

EXPRESS LAW LTD 07355828 Incorporated 24 Aug 2010 *Live*
1 West Moor Park, Networkcentre, Armthorpe, Doncaster, Sth Yorkshire DN3 3GW
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D15584064
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: Not Known
Room 209 Mercury House, Willoughton Drive Off Foxby Lane, Gainsborough, Lincs, United Kingdom, DN21 1DY

MINSTER LEGAL SERVICES (UK) LTD 07222505 Incorporated 13 Apr 2010 *Liquidation* Resigned
Axholme House North Street, Crowle, Scunthorpe, South Humberside DN17 4NB
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D15048537
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: 01 Jan 1980     British
Room 209 Mercury House, Willoughton Drive Off Foxby Lane, Gainsborough, Lincs, United Kingdom, DN21 1DY

MINSTER LEGAL SERVICES (UK) LTD 07222505 Incorporated 13 Apr 2010 *Liquidation* Resigned
Axholme House North Street, Crowle, Scunthorpe, South Humberside DN17 4NB
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D15048539
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: Not Known     British
11 Tydeman Close, Bottesford, Scunthorpe, Lincs, DN16 3TW

YOUR SPACE GARAGE CONVERSIONS LIMITED 06472149 Incorporated 14 Jan 2008 *Dissolved 09* Resigned
F7 Mercia Way, Foxhills, Scunthorpe, Lincs DN15 8RE

DREAM SPAS LIMITED 06472333 Incorporated 14 Jan 2008 *Dissolved 09* Resigned
F7 Mercia Way, Foxhills, Scunthorpe, Lincs DN15 8RE
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D12703193
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: 27 Apr 1971     British
7 Leamington Close, Scunthorpe, Lincs, DN16 1JR

YOUR SPACE GARAGE CONVERSIONS LIMITED 06472149 Incorporated 14 Jan 2008 *Dissolved 09*
F7 Mercia Way, Foxhills, Scunthorpe, Lincs DN15 8RE
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D12768065
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Mr Andrew Young     DOB: 24 May 1970     British
7 Leamington Close, Scunthorpe, Lincs, DN16 1JR

DREAM SPAS LIMITED 06472333 Incorporated 14 Jan 2008 *Dissolved 09*
F7 Mercia Way, Foxhills, Scunthorpe, Lincs DN15 8RE

DREAM (UK) ENTERPRISES LIMITED 06577731 Incorporated 28 Apr 2008 *Dissolved 09*
2nd Floor, 145-157 St John Street, London, EC1V 4PY
https://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/Process ... dirNo=D12772204
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