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Could have sworn 6 months ago I was looking at stuff re Mr Bate...ironically enough the address I was looking at was a pub called the Rising Sun...trip advisor days it's an awful pub !!

Yes think he added his middle name for that one its Geoffrey.
Can't kid a kidder !!

Ok....so worse case scenario 600 quid worse off..For what ? To have the satisfaction of knowing that somebody actually is trying to sort out a pile of [***]. .No loss..
The Reigate posts have been seen before, investigated, discussed at length amongst other things...and the bottom line is, it's fine...
Nobody ran off with 10 milli

You should see what the 21-25 office is called, no imagination.

Nobody ran off with 10 million quid..

so that's the bottom line...as somebody who has been trying to sort out this crap since February and maintaining a business, I see no harm in Angie making a charge...i would in the same scenario.
So.. .to anyone tuning in late. ..ignore the perps and others ...Angie heart is in the right place...Go with it !

Stephen Ward has now acknowledged he was behind Capita Oak.  So no more tippie toeing around about the perpetrators.  And the main perpetrator.

So Salih and Perkins have mislead/Lied to companies house over a reg Address
Steve/Stephen Bate has registered companies under diff names.
Sarah ( how's the pimms by the pool) Duffel  uses the same trick, hope all this is being passed on to the authorities

The same old crap over and over...yes Angie was involved in some gambling club. ..she has explained everything to me personally. WHERE IS MY MONEY????. THAT'S  what you should be telling me / us...you don't give a toss about me 'losing' 750 quid what's bothering you is that we are getting closer and closer to getting you..and it's Angie who is leading us there.. until she does something untoward to ME..Im with her...now do us all a favour and [***] off

We all choose who to trust and who not to I'm a genuine capita victim I've lost 2 pensions but I don't trust a single soul on here that's my prerogative wether right it wrong it doesn't really matter and giving abuse to people who are basically anonymous doesn't mean anything I don't care who as done what and who was involved in what but I won't pay anything more out for something that can be done for free

Another scam - 1,400 victims with 134 million.  Poor devils.  http://www.thepensionsregulator.gov.uk/press/pn14-45.aspx

If this ends up being handed over to an appointed independent trustee, we will be paying big time. The fees will wipe out what is left. I do not want the investments to be sold off in a firesale. When I was younger, I saw first hand what accountants do when they liquidate expensive stock just to get cash for fees etc.

Main concern was that the scheme largely " provides a lump sum rather than retirement benefits"....ah right...so the changes to regulation next year don't do that at all..cynic

Well said , why are they worried about us losing money now .... They weren't when they scammed us !

I would not call you a cynic, you are bang on the mark. I am fully expecting a raft of new scams next year along the lines of - Don't wait to get to 55 to cash in your scheme - and - Over 55? Poor pension returns? We guarantee 20% a year with our teak forests on the moon. Oops, looks like I have just joined you, and hundreds of other UK IFAs, as a cynic.
Mayhem, will prevail.

I understand Joe..but where this site originally was supporting genuine victims of this scandal of which I am one its now been hijacked by faceless [***] trying to either laugh at us or confuse us into not being able to trust anyone. I've spoken to Angie face to face and she hasn't had to take a penny of me yet ....yet she has moved us do far down the line the people she has exposed with the truth can only do 1 thing and that is mud sling. Like you Ive not only had these people steal  my financial future they have taken to an extent my ability to trust my own judgement..but I am willing to risk  and put my trust in Angie over this..The fact she has not hidden behind a false name on here and that she doesn't constantly come back with childish retorts at their digs which have been repeated over and over says volumes. As you can appreciate this is an entwined matter with twist and turns everywhere but they are being unravelled.. I need that money back.. at the moment I've got hope that can happen..8 months ago I had nothing

What I don't get is that these poor devils transferred their pension to these fraudsters the government  sees that they were conned and yet now threaten a 55% tax bill onto the poor [***].. they are  as bigger thieves as the fraudsters

The Ark group went and visited Ian Duncan  Smith and told him of the situation. .He was astounded..more to come..

He would be it's election time

Is that true? Not doubting you,  he is one of a handful of politicians that I would take seriously.  Frank Field is another,  get him on the case with IDS

Yes and the Pensions minister Stephen Webb