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Its a shame all this support for Steven Simon isn't put in to bring about peace in the world

How about the moody cow ls19 6bj.

no reduction from steven simon.

obviously you can't read.reduction from £42600 to£27250.its there in black and white

Do not trust CVS, they are robbing, arrogant idiots. They send round a salesperson who is totally plausable, gets you to sign by saying, oh just sign this to say we can act for you, NO WAY WAS THIS CORRECT, I stupidly signed and then when they done nothing for my business I cancelled, next I am getting demands for thousands for cancelation fees, because I not knowingly signed the paper which actually read, if you cancel you will be charged. There was no mention of this when he was selling me the job, they do not like confrontation, I have rang & e mailed numerous times, they never get back, today I got a court order demanding the money. They had my business figures as requested and of course they cannot find them, in fact said they never received them!. A barrister friend of ours has said to alert trading standards & go to the press as firms like this do not like to be shown up like this, they are a bunch of robbing [***], the salesman was called Martin, couldn't understand his surname as it was not readable on the form, he talked the talk but beware of this person, also there is a girl called Zoe at CVS who does not answer e mails, they will ring you up and leave so called messages for you, I never got one, all lies, totally untrustworthy, also when they came they said they were acting on behalf of our landlords for the business, when I asked them they had never heard of CVS, and the people I rent from are a very large regional firm, they did not take kindly to being involved in this scam, so if CVS ever call you tell them to get lost, if not you will regret it, they will prey on you and not do anything for you. BEWARE

Those greedy pigs at CVS have got their snouts in the trough yet again!  And, just as predicted, they are attempting to get an extra two years fees, based on the government extending the rating period, they really don't seem to be able to help themselves.  Why couldn't they just be satisfied with ripping companies off for five years, no, not this lot, they have to go the extra mile.

So, here's the warning, if you are considering signing a contract with this despicable company, STOP, and don't sign under any circumstances, believe me, like so many other companies who have been taken in by this bunch of slick con artists, you will regret it!

I think you will find that they cannot do this especially if the contract was signed before the govt announced the extension of the rating period.there was an interesting court case reported by Andrew penman of the mirror on the 18 March.this was brought by a company called coupers partnership.the rating period was not clearly defined and coupers claim was thrown out by the judge.

Hi,

can you help with this ?  I have signed a contract with CVS and we have received a discount and rebate. We now have realised that we have signed up until potentially 2027. Does this mean we are liable for fees based on the current appeal over this period or only of they have further appeal successes. Also what happens should we vacate the premises ?

thanks

So I signed up with CVS in March 2010 - they got me a reduction in the business rates for the 1st year and since then my rateable value has gone up with inflation but I am still being billed yearly.  I received a call from them yesterday chasing the invoice and was told that I am tied in until 2017.  My question is what can I do if they haven't reduced my rates since the inital reduction in 2010?  I take it that I am not tied in until 2017 by the comment in your post.  I have only 1 saving grace in that they are charging me 35% and not 50% but still 35% of a number they are plucking out of nowhere is still 35% especially as my rates are only going up in line with inflation.  Appreciate your help

Firstly once you have vacated and you are the tenant they cannot bill you.your tenancy has ended.regarding the contract committing you to 2027 this could be regarded as unfair contract terms.precedents have been set in the courts.cvs have changed their contract terms over the years and without seeing your contract I cannot give you a definitive answer.

if you signed up in 2010 and you didn't sign up for the 2015 rating list your contract ends in 2015.you are in the same boat as a number of other people and there is a great deal of anger as to what cvs are trying to do.from initial discussions with a leading barrister who specialises in contract law we feel we are in the right.will cvs want the negative publicity by going to court?

I assume you meant your rent was increasing with inflation and not your rates?  Anyway, looks like we are in the same boat, I signed a year earlier, in 2009.

Extracts as follows from my signed contract, 'Proposal to alter the Rating List 2010' being ticked on their Rating Agreement document, and Terms and Conditions on the reverse of this document stating 'Rating Period is the 5 year term from one Revaluation of Rateable Value to another, running from 1st April 2005 or 1st April 2010 to 31st March 2015 as applicable.'  So, in the Terms and Conditions, there is a clear reference to a time period of 5 years, and an ending date of 31st March 2015.

I have also just noticed something interesting regarding the cancellation period being referred to at the bottom of the Rating Agreement document, it states 'This agreement is subject to a voluntary seven day cancellation period.'  Not 14 days, as I had assumed, just goes to show, how small their small print really is!

That said, Trading Standards are now involved, and not amused, it is clear I am not the first person to have contacted them regarding this type of scam.  I suggest, everyone with a dubious CVS contract, should contact Trading Standards for advice, they need to know the numbers involved in this mess.

To attempt to get payment for an extra two years, really is a step too far, even for those greedy pigs at CVS, they really do seem to have overstepped the mark with this latest stunt, and their rude aggressive bully-boy approach in attempting to get paid, indicates a desperate commission driven payment structure at CVS.

This week, when they yet again chased payment, I told them I was no longer in contract, as their Terms and Conditions stated 5 years, and the ending date being 31st March 2015, unbelievable the reply came, that didn't matter, I had ticked the box!  I assume he was referring to the box I refer to in my second paragraph above.

I will, of course, be posting updates.

With reference to my above post, where I refer to the small print in CVS contracts, I have found the following online, at whatconsumer.co.uk, within their post entitled Cooling off and Cancellations, I quote the following extracts:

"Doorstep selling Regulations – or to give it its proper title: The Cancellation of Contracts made in a Consumer’s Home or Place of Work etc Regulations 2008. These regulations give you a cooling off period of 7 calendar days during which time you have the right to cancel and get a full refund. Just as with the Distance Selling Regulations, you must have been provided with a notice of your cancellation rights, otherwise the agreement may be legally unenforceable.

The Correct Procedure
With any contract or sale which is concluded away from the trader’s normal business premise, you must be sure you have been presented with clear written notice of your right to cancel, at or before the time the contract is made. If you have not, the contract is legally unenforceable. This notice, which cannot be in the form of small print, or otherwise disguised, must also provide a cancellation form and advise you on how and to whom a notice of cancellation is to be made. You can use the cancellation form provided or a simple written notice, as long as it is clear of your intentions. And as long as you have posted your notice of cancellation before the end of the cancellation period, it doesn’t matter when it is actually received. For this reason, it is always advisable to send it recorded delivery."

I look forward to comments exploring clear legal avenues to assist all those caught up with CVS or other similar scamming companies.

thank you for your previous posts re cancellation of contracts.however at this moment in time we are more concerned at preventing anybody bowing down to cvs demands for charging for the period of 2015-2017.we are sure that that they will lose in court.i would suggest complaining to the rics rules and regulations department.i do not know where in the country you are based but I would be happy to meet up with you.we are contemplating taking class action against cvs,so if anybody is interested let us know.strength in numbers.

thanks. Will come back to you if this looks like being an issue.

you should be aware that you are quoting "consumer" regulations and you may be inadvertently offering bad advice to others. . It is a business to business contract and not covered by these regulations. Loads of people make that mistake and I was one and it was very costly going to small claims not realising this. All the regulations and laws are different for business to business other than misrepresentation.

Thank you for the warning, I have now rechecked the information on the Trading Standards site, and you are correct, Business to Business contracts are not covered by this piece of consumer legislation, so thanks again for the warning.

A very important warning to us all to check if any piece of legislation is relevant to the consumer only!

That is why trading standards have never prosecuted any of these rating firms.it is not in their remit.best bet is the insolvency agency.

I have corresponded with CVS regarding the extension to 2017 and waiting for a reply.  If I encounter any more problems I will be in touch - thank you

So glad to read these comments just had exactly the same issue!! RUDE RUDE RUDE i hung up