08448113701

I've paid a couple of quid for software to block specified numbers on my phone - never heard of the twit they're after. Anyway, it works, but you do have to manually add 08 numbers......

these people have been badgering me for weeks  and i to do not know how it is that they have obtained my numbers , and to all you that are saying that have the people complaining ever thought that they owe the money stated , i do not owe the money and i have proof from EON, i requested a statement off PDCS of the bill stating that i owe money to EON , before i recieved it i had some more nasty phone calls , then when i did finally recieve it i rang eon and after a 30 minute phonecall they apologised profusely because it was totally EONs mistake and they have sent me a bill stating that they apologise and that we owe £0.00 , i have told PDCS this and they still are giving me nasty phone calls , so just to let u people out there that thin k these people are getting upset for no reason they are not because i have proof that i owe no money and yet i am still being victimised by this company please be careful of what information you disclose to these people they have extremely bad attitudes

NOT a scam people you should really look it up on a legit site like companies house rather than a stupif forum were most people dont have clue!

i work there ;)

Because your a tool.

This number rang me today. Said they were a security firm and asked for confirmation of my postcode. It was a foreigner who wouldn't tell me any more about his firm. I told them goodbye!

PS We have no outstanding debts with anything including utility bills as they are taken direct debit from our account. Credit cards paid a few days after use ... so where did they get our number from?

If this is a legitimate company doing legitimate business, why do they persist with phoning my son's mobile? Myself & my husband have both told them on separate occasions that they've got the wrong number. My son is 12, I'm pretty certain he's not in debt with anyone. A strongly worded letter is on the way.

Possibly has a recycled number and the previous owner was in debt, quite common. The number will still be registered with that debtor on credit reference agencies (Experian, Electoral role) etc. until YOU change it. Mary, I understand people like yourself are quite ignorant, but please think about what you are saying before you type it. Why would any company phone you if it was the wrong number?

"Big Heavy, your understanding of the CCA and the law in general is almost as hilarious as the sock-puppet posters who are obviously linked to PDCS.

PDCS was incorporated in July 2005. Long? No. Prosperous? Yes, if the measurement is how many people are bullied into repaying."

Let's see, that makes 5 years of working 'illegally' and against the OFT and CSA, if you think about it for a minute (Which you clearly have'nt) any company would have been shut down in this period if that was the case. Looks like you started typing this before reading the full post, another common mistake by moronic debtors (Read the fine print much?). Might as well stop this arguement here since it is fundamentally flawed, but it's ok, i'll continue to prove you wrong.

"What an incredibly simplistic view of the law. You're ignoring the part that requires a DCA to prove that the debt is owed in the first place."

What does that have to do with what you quoted? This made me laugh a little. Proof is always sent prior to it being sent to a DCA. What would the point in not sending a copy of the bill be? Why would a big company work illegally when all they would need to do is post a bill? What an idiot. One reason for not recieving a bill is if you have moved house, Which would be quite common with elec/gas bills as the connections are usually terminated when the customer leaves the property, and does'nt inform the company of their new address.

"Many of these companies use in-house DCAs, whose conduct flies in the face of what the law allows. A cursory search of the Internet will make this clear."

Again, you're basically saying these companies work illegally which is idiotic in it's own right but you're taking debtors accounts of these debts and basically using it as hard evidence to back your arguement up? That's not fair is it? Very biased, yes. Very common of a debtor, yes.

"Of course people should 'PAY UP' - if the debt is owed. You keep forgetting that the burden of proof lies with PDCS, not the alleged debtor."

Again, you're basically saying big companies such as SKY are trying to take money from you that you don't owe? Hahaha, I'm sure SKY have bigger things to worry about that trying to scam you out of 100 pounds. What proof would you need? A bill from SKY that they can easily knock up a computer anyway? Clown.

"A good example of what a DCA cannot do - the 'LAW' (what's with the caps?) does not grant a collection agent any rights above a member of the public, without a valid court order. The best course of action is to close the door, and call the police if they refuse to leave your property. Doorstep collectors rely on intimidating the unwitting into thinking they are bailiffs, which is very much unlawful."

Correct. I did'nt say they did, ignorance is bliss. Doorstep collectors will be sent, ask for payment, most likely embarass you infront of your neighbours with the van that says DEBT COLLECTION on the side. However, once a court order is granted, bailiffs can be instructed to seize your assets for the ammount you owe. Failing that, you will be forced into bankruptcy if you cannot pay. SIMPLES.

"Anyone has the right to offer their own repayment. It is for a court to decide if it is fair, *not* PDCS or their hired goons."

Example, I'm a millionaire, I have a 5000 pound bill I can easily pay off, I offer 1p a month, the company requests your income and expenditure details, shows you have plenty of money to pay bill, you refuse, it goes to court, an attachment of earnings to your employer, you waste everyones time at court, you will incur further charges, you will be liable for the persuers legal fees, and you will be made pay the balance in full or have your assets seized. Did you read this stuff from the internet by any chance? You have clearly not thought this through.

" I would suggest you actually research the environment in which your company operates before sounding off like this, because the Internet community at large has very little sympathy for companies and employees who think they won't be held to account. Even a novice server admin will be able to trace the sock puppet posts (and probably your own) back to the same IP, and I wouldn't be surprised if that IP is linked to PDCS."

I CLEARLY am more knowledgable than you in this subject, as it shows I have proved you wrong with every thing you said, I realise you have tried to twist my words a little which shows you have probably gathered this 'evidence' from the internet, my 2 years spent studying a degree in credit management is WASTED on you ignorant gypsies.

Here is my IP,  192 168 0 0, Do what you want with it.

"I'm sure the CSA would be very interested to know why PDCS think it is acceptable conduct to post thinly-veiled threats and baseless accusations on a public forum."

I'm sure they would'nt. Nontheless, no threats or accusations were made.

Sheer ignorance :) Now, if the next person could step up please, i'll school you aswell?

Oh, big headache, you were trying so hard. It nearly came off as a clever reply until you posted an LAN IP and invited trouble to it.

All you have proven is that your organisation thinks it is ok to allow their 'heavies' to drag their knuckles across the keyboards in yet another attempt to sound like they know the law. I'm sure your 'degree' in credit 'management' would've made you question the acceptability of embarrassing debtors as a collection tactic.

You're right, though - PDCS do think I owe them money. However, they have yet to show me any evidence in support of their claim. This is important, as I know for a fact that the number they have quoted is made up. I've also given them my new address and specifically requested that they contact me in writing, rather than pester me when I am at work. Do you think they've listened? Of course not. I wouldn't be surprised if it was you I spoke to.

The most important point for you to remember is that you are acting on behalf of PDCS. If they were a reputable company - which they clearly are not, and if you were in anything like a senior position - which you clearly are not, then you would post your real name and your position within the company. Seeing as you hide behind a pseudonym, and throw mud from behind its protection, it really just seems like you are a front-line collector. Your attitude towards debtors makes it even more likely.

"You're right, though - PDCS do think I owe them money. However, they have yet to show me any evidence in support of their claim. This is important, as I know for a fact that the number they have quoted is made up. I've also given them my new address and specifically requested that they contact me in writing, rather than pester me when I am at work. Do you think they've listened? Of course not. I wouldn't be surprised if it was you I spoke to."

I've not once said I work for them. Who said anything about the company allowing 'heavies' to post anything on this? It's the internet, freedom of speech. Perhaps this is what gets you into debt in the first place, not reading things.

Why would they not listen to you? Is there ANY reason not to contact you in writing? NO? Letters will always be sent, don't expect them to arrive at your horrible little 1 bedroom flat the day after you've requested a letter. Just because YOU (A debtor) request to be contacted in writing does'nt mean they need to do what you say, as a matter of fact you probably won't recieve a personalised letter, it will most likely be a formal demand advising you to pay before further action is taken against you. How long will it take for you to recieve a letter? What about when you claim to not have recieved the letter and your credit worthiness is adversley affected? I.e when you start moaning about not being able to rent out your next house because of a credit check? Telephony is by far the easiest and quickest way of contacting you. Plus it can be recorded so everyone can make sure they have agreed to the same thing.

As I said in a previous post, they don't need to prove anything to you, the bill is always sent when you disconnect from a supply/end a contract, ALWAYS. More than likely 5 times after that, what would the reasoning behind not sending it be? Think about it, idiot. The bill will be sent if and when you admit liabilty and agree to pay in full once you recieve the bill to the collection agency. If it was that much of a deal the company would get another bill made up. What's this? It's taken me 3 minutes to print off another bill, put it in an envelope and post it to you? Do you think about what you are typing before you type it or do you have written diarrhea?

They have made what number up exactly? Why would they 'make-up' anything, especially when such a smart person such as yourself could prove the figure is incorrect?

"The most important point for you to remember is that you are acting on behalf of PDCS. If they were a reputable company - which they clearly are not, and if you were in anything like a senior position - which you clearly are not, then you would post your real name and your position within the company. Seeing as you hide behind a pseudonym, and throw mud from behind its protection, it really just seems like you are a front-line collector. Your attitude towards debtors makes it even more likely."

How can you justify that the company is not 'reputable' when they have several big clients? Would they not have been closed down by the CSA or OFT? Why don't you hear it from the CSA or OFT yourself, i'm sure they'll be happy to confirm they are a reputable company.The important thing for you to remember is I know this game inside and out. I've proved you wrong left, right and centre. If you were'nt so ignorant you would've realised and gave up by now. Speculate all you want.

You think this company is out to 'get' you for your measly £40 you can't afford to pay and are trying there best to con you into paying it. Wisen up.

You don't have a valid point to make, please keep embarassing yourself. But this time read what i've said, let's see if you can come up with anything new.

You are hilariously one-dimensional. Seeing as you are so obviously over-qualified for your first-line collector monkey position, perhaps you can answer this simple question - I ask, because it is a very common reason for PDCS (and other DCAs) to unleash the hounds:

What two conditions must a 'cancellation charge' meet to be considered lawful?

Go on, put your huge brain to work and help a poor, idiotic 'debtor' like me. It's pretty basic CCA stuff, so I wouldn't expect it to trouble you much.

Then again, you seem to think that a DCA doesn't need to honour a request to stop phone calls, so I'm guessing your degree was purchased rather than earned.

I have just had a call from 0844 8113701 - past2credit - but as I wouldnt confirm (give) my address they said they would terminate the call - I asked how they got my number - they wouldnt say - I asked if it was business related as they phoned me at work - they wouldnt say-  whats all that about then?

just had a call today. picked up but no one was talking. after 30 seconds they hung up on me

Keep ringing me sayin i owe hundreds of pounds 4 a electric bil which is false so STOP CALLIN ME

We keep getting silent calls from this number. Called them back & they stated a Mr A owed them money.
Have now repeatedly told them we have nothing to do with a Mr A but they keep calling for a £60 debt to do with N Power.
Lately the calls come in on a Friday night at 9pm and the girl who makes the call is very quiet so its very difficult to make out what she is saying

So sad? Dont we have a right? There are so many idiots about with our numbers.. you're the one who is sad i think

They keep calling me and asking for a Mr Brian Johnson. I've never heard of him! When I tell them this, thsy just hang up. I've asked them to remove my number, but they've not done it yet. It's a comfort to see that I'm not the only one being bothered by this lot.

Brian Johnson is the singer of AC/DC

i funny man i dont owe no f in bills and there calling me asking to speake to other people i have receved with in last 5 months 431 calls from thes vermon i owe no bills i have no debet get ur facts right mr be for accusing every one owing thousands