08453003950

Difficult to know if anyone here is what they say, but one thing I am utterly sure of is that anyone employed by the real HMRC a)  would not be cruising scam phonecall sites to "set the record straight" (there are at least half a dozen separate names on this site claiming to be HMRC employees - why would they be on this site?), and b)  would not use the phrase: "PAY YOUR GOD DAMN TAX ON TIME".

I notice also that most of the supposed HMRC posters have a tendency to use CAPITAL LETTERS and be quite angry/impatient... suggesting that they are the same person posting and also a nutter.

Ignore these idiots.

100% Genuine number, mine was from the VAT section

I know of a few folk working for HMRC that post on here. This whole forum is a farce; do you think scammers would come on here trying to convince you that it's real? No one is able to prove that this number is a scam. No one has approached Ofcom or the police - why not? If I thought it was a scam which it's not I would have contacted the authorities.

The forum is filled with paranoia!

funny how tax credits office tell you to never give out any of those detials on an incoming call only if you've contacted them through a number on their paperwork.

i got a call from this number asking me to call back but my daughter pressed the delete button so i went through the various numbers and they all said the same thing ITS NOT US i even called dla as my daughter is disabaled this is wrong as it cost a fortune because im on a none bt phone line

Unbelievable; this is till up for debate. Look I have suggested that you contact Ofcom or the Police. There is no need to post on here. You are receiving a call from the Debt Management section of HMRC because there are outstanding taxes on your account or someone else who lives with you.

The number you retrieve when dialling 1471 is the callback number; if you return the call to the CLI number presented on 1471 you will be connected to a recorded message advising you that HMRC have tried to contact you and will attempt to contact you again in the near future.

However only call them if they leave a message on your answerphone or with a third party as they will leave the correct number for you to call back on. The 0845 300 3950 number is no use; you pay a few pennies by dialling it just to hear the recorded message.

Also, another point. If HMRC Debt Management have tried to contact you but did not get through to you you would have received a letter to confirm the situation and ask you to call back on the appropriate 0845 e.g. Self Assessment - 0845 302 1427; now there are several 0845's for Debt management's SA section; the number you are asked to call back depends on how far along the debt recovery process you are or what your payment and tax return submission history is like.

You are an absolute idiot.

The reason genuine revenue employees (myself included) turn up here is because its the first link on google when we stick our numbers in Google. Some people do this, read this site, realise how utterly ridiculous and paranoid some people are and tell all of their friends at work about it to come on and read the Great British Scaremongering. Some of them decide to try and set the record straight.
Its very simple.

You have no facts, no proof, just your own silly theory which you throw at us adding "I am utterly sure", when in reality, you are spewing nonsense.

Same person? Nutter? Angry? Your own little theories?

Are you sure its us that are the crazy ones you fool?

The numbers are there on all of the official sites for everyone to see. Case closed. Its not a scam.

@ citizen - Any taxpayer in the UK would be quite entitled to tell you to pay your god DAMN tax HMRC employee or not. It is your obligation to pay; it's those that pay it that end up being penalised through other ways because remittances remaining unpaid.

I don't like paying tax but it has to be done to make the system work; it really annoys me when I read about the national tax debt; in the majority of cases there is no excuse; there is of course a minority that are in genuine financial hardship and fair enough they have their reasons but in the main it's people who have far to much credit and don't put enough money away to meet their January and July payments just because they wanted the latest BMW.

People don't like getting calls from Debt Recovery which is perfectly understandable but there comes a point when you have to accept that you are in the wrong and that you just need to deal with it. This country is becoming lazy and the Government needs to stop accomodating these people.

Good news is HMRC has upgraded is technology and already there has been a huge chunk of national tax debt cleared in the last year. But remember it cost's the Government a lot of money to recover it - money that could be spent elsewhere.

I received a call from this number today and no one spoke! You all say that its overpayment of tax credits but I don't receive any tax credits! So why are they calling me?

Got a call from this number. A Scottish man and asked for my NI and Address as it was an urgent tax matter.  I knew this was dodgy, because is there such a thing as an urgent tax matter? Tax matters don't happen overnight, and there are only two speeds that Government Agencies work and that is SLOW and SLOWER. This company is really a trace company trying to confirm your details for debt collecting agencies.

I told him that he was talking rubbish. If the Inland Revenue wanted to contact me then they would do it in the usual way by post. He tried to give me a number to ring back, I put the phone down: phoned my tax office and they confirmed it was a scam. Do not give these people your details!!!

Called today at 13:40
Missed the call, but a voicemail was left asking me to ring back with a reference number on an 0845 number (302 1426). The voicemail was for a company name different to mine though.
I rang back from Skype and a bloke answered. Asked my reference number and and asked me to confirm my company name. As it was different to the one quoted, the scottish guy apologised and said he would amend his records.
Not a scam, but is unorganised. I suppose the company they wanted to get hold of owes some tax. The business they wanted was a similar business to mine, but with very different names.
No harm done, other than a few pennies to Skype for the call back.

Ive just recieved a call which came up as 'blocked'. Woman claimed she was from tax credit office. Wasnt sure if it was genuine, she only wanted to make sure she had the right address date of birth and postcode for me. Is this dodgy?? Xx

Yes there seems to be some discrepancy in asking for information. The caller starts by saying Mr (Surname) and then asks for the current address. Banks or any Govt Financial institution never asks full address or full date of birth. As a matter of fact, they will say as per our records we have address as SE1 XXQ and ask you to complete the XX. The caller was saying that the current address that I stated was not correct then he asked me previous address and to that also he said no, then I said that he got the wrong person and if HMRC needs anything, they should write to me.
So to safe gaurd us - If anyone is asking for complete address or complete date of birth, know that there is something fishy.
Second, ask them to write to you.
Thanks
Umesh

Received a call the other day for my returns I hadnt submitted yet because i work for an employer now, they gave me 2 weeks to get them sorted and said that should clear the £100 penalties theyd given me, never asked for money because i told them i didnt owe any. Dont see any reason to believe this is a scam as the info they had was spot on.

It is HMRC. It's from their outstanding payments/money owed department - debt collection by any other name.

I have my own company and they needed to discuss my corporation tax payments with me.

The number is a from a supplied autogen dialler, which is why when you ring it back you get an automated message, it's a very common practice for any company with call centres.  

If you answer the number they will discuss your issues with you and do ask some basic information to clarify your identify - for me it was stuff about my company address and to verify my number (autogen diallers do not allow easy identification of the called number), I guess if you are an individual the information requested will be personal to you.  The lady I spoke to voluntarily stated that if I was uncomfortable giving out information she could give me a number to ring and a reference number - they know that people think it is a scam number.

If this number calls you, do answer.  They only call if you owe some form of money to them and this is the last stage before legal proceedings.  In my case it was an error, I owed a small amount of tax following a miscalculation by my accountant and this call cleared it up.  Tthe lady on the phone was very helpful and they will try and make a repayment arrangement with you, to help you if you are struggling.  

Use your common sense - if you do not receive benefits, owe tax credit repayments, or do not owe money, or don't do a personal return then there should be little reason for them to call you. If this is the case ask for the alternative number to dial and a reference number (their ref nos tend to be pretty long and alpha-numeric), then check with hmrc.gov.uk that the number given is a genuine HMRC one before ringing it.

If however you do have financial issues with HMRC, I suggest you take the call to save a bigger problem in the near future, you can again take the alternative number and ring them if you are suspicious. It is possible to scam autogenerated numbers, but you should have a good idea from the person on the other end of the phone whether it is a genuine call or not.

Hope this helps.

P.S. They do send letters first - up to 3 in fact.  If you are an individual they will come directly to you - make sure your details are up to date.  If you own a business they weill go to the registered address which may be your own address or that of your accountant/solicitor etc.  My accountant has not passed those on to me, they are sitting in a pile 'waiting to be send out' as I have just discussed with them.

As you can imagine, I will be rethinking my accountacy needs over the next few weeks!

There is a duty of responsibility that we all have - if you know you owe money, try and sort it out. If you know your details are not up to date, sort it out.

You really are a fool if you ignore these calls.
Haven't you read any of the previous posts, telling you that the number is genuine.
I can't believe I am wasting my time with this.

HMRC Shuts Down 180 Fake WebsitesOn August 13th, 2010, posted in: HM Revenue & Customs by admin


HM Revenue and Customs has reported a surge in tax scam phising attempts after shutting down more than 180 websites responsible for sending out fake emails.

The body also warned taxpayers to be on their guard for fraudsters posing as HMRC agents on the phone, seeking account details.

Chris Hopson, director of customer contact, said HMRC only contacts customers in writing by post.

“We never use telephone calls, emails or external companies in these circumstances. We strongly urge anyone receiving such a phone call not to give any information to the caller, but report it to the police straightaway,” he said.

“If customers receive an email claiming to be from HMRC, we recommend they send it to us for investigation before deleting it permanently.”

http://www.bamlimited.co.uk/2010/08/13/hmrc-shuts-down-180-fake-websites/

We've just had a 'phone call on our landline, asking for the N.Insurance number of one of our sons, who doesn't even live with us.  I don't see how he can possibly owe any tax as he works for one of the large supermarkets and his income is taxed at source.  We've got a number for him to call 0845 302 1420 but I don't know if this is genuine or not.

The number is confirmed as HMRC on the UK Parliament website - scroll down to tax credit recovery line 0845 302 1420. You must owe money for tax credits.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm20 ... /80519w0019.htm